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  Final talk of the 2020 'Always Rejoice' Convention

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is part of splane's lecture in the final part of the final day of the 2020 convention.

  now speaking of broadcasting.

  do you think jehovah has been preparing us for something like this pandemic?

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  Magnum

  Some Brothers get all upset over some detail

  So, details don't matter? What exactly classifies some teaching or piece of information as "detail" about which one doesn't have to be concerned? Where is the line between teachings that are considered "detail" and those that aren't - those that really matter?

  If details don't matter, then why read the Bible and try to understand all of it? Why have The Kingdom Interlinear that allows for analyzing the Greek in the New Testament? Why have all the publications they've produced over the years like the Revelation Climax book?

  It just doesn't make sense. They're beginning to sound like the churches against whom they preach. "Just believe; just trust. Don't worry about or get bogged down by details."
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  The last part of the last days 1967

  by Fadeaway1962 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ts lett just repeated from this watchtower.

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  nowwhat? - You can download the bound volume for that year here: https://avoidjw.org/all/magazines/

  Just type in the year you want in the "year" box. I just did it and found the April 1 Watchtower in the bound volume - just as shown in the OP.
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  Watchtower Study 23rd August

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the subject is searching for lost sheep.

  how do the congregation view the inactive ones who no longer associate?

  not with disdain, we are told but as lost sheep “still our brothers “ it is said that god loves them and they too must do what they can to help them.. why have we strayed ?

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  Magnum

  OMG - those arrogant b@$t@rd$! That boils my blood. As you mentioned in the OP, the problem is always ours. We're somehow weak, and, if it's not weakness, it's wickedness. A JW who has left is either weak or wicked; it's never that he left because he's strong and smart and has researched and spent a lot of time analyzing and really wants truth.

  And, as for the picture that you posted... I've driven by JWs at carts a number of times, and, the look on my face was one of utter contempt and disdain. I always think how ignorant and clueless and unreasonable they are and how they are really scared of questions and challenges and outside info... how they claim to be lovers of truth, but don't want the real truth. I always think how glad I am that I am no longer part of that - trapped on that hamster wheel of mindless busy work that takes lives and keeps drones from straying.
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  Dress and Grooming

  by Anna Marina in

  1. social
  2. humour

  things are reaching a new high with jw fashion.. a jw orgie facemask.

  https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/784736158/jw-face-mask-jw-gift-multi-functional?ref=related-3&pro=1&frs=1.

  a witness without a word.

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  All the old-timers are rolling over in their graves.
  
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  Was It Designed? (My head hurts)

  by Cadellin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know i shouldn't--i tell myself this over and over--but i can't help peeking at these silly articles.

  and then i see this and my head really starts hurting: so the gannet, if you don't know (and why would you?

  ) is a seabird that feeds on fish.

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  I noticed that kind of stuff the whole time (decades) I was in JWdom and made notes about it. It really bothered me.

  One article I remember from probably twenty or more years ago was about a bird of prey that had double eyelids (two on each eye). One of the eyelids was translucent and it allowed the bird to blink and keep its eyes moist while pursuing prey without losing sight of the prey. "Oh, what a marvel of design!" I was thinking that that indicated that animals were designed to hunt and kill, yet, JW theology says otherwise. Extreme contradiction; it just didn't (and doesn't) make sense.

  Another article was about a bird who lived in a reed habitat and when on the ground in the reeds, would sway with them in the wind so as not to be noticed by predators. "Oh, what a marvel of design!" I was thinking "Why would an animal be designed with such a defense when there were no predators when it was designed?"

  It's not only the offensive capabilities we see in nature that indicate that animals were "designed" to kill, but also all the vast defensive capabilities; they wouldn't be needed if there were no predators.
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  “The Asiatic Mind” — Watchtower 1956

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  searching instances of the word “simplify” in watchtower literature, i stumbled across this.. the asiatic mind finds it difficult to accept new ways, to simplify and to make advantageous changes.

  they fear conversion and dislike others’ offering them help.

  many continually live in a realm of unreality and refuse to face modern facts of life.

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  OMG! Got to save this one for my anti-JW arsenal. And, to think, these guys claim to be in the right hand of Jesus.

  JWs might claim that they've learned better since then; however, they're supposed to be guided by holy spirit - not dependent on human learning.

  JWs aren't supposed to be receiving thoughts of men in their "food at the proper time".
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  World Wide Work Resolution Doubled Overnight

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  during covid-19 crisis our hall decides to double the amount sent to hq from our local account.

  the resolution is unanimously supported, no questions asked.

  has anyone else had this happen?.

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  If local congregations and individual JWs are willing to donate more than they did before the virus hit (or probably even just the same amount), then JWism will become an e-religion. I think the org is monitoring the situation closely to see what's going to happen to its income stream. If donations don't drop off, then it can sell off all Kingdom Halls and claim the scene of the world is changing, we're near the end, etc.

  I bet JWs would be willing to donate more to keep the situation as it is now - not physically going to meetings, no door-to-door, etc.
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  Transparency in Field Service Hours

  by Earnest in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i notice that in the recent instructions for new regular pioneers (2020-08-s-236-e) it lists a number of assignments for which a pioneer can be credited (up to 75) hours in a month.. these include:construction oversight, assembly hall oversight, assembly oversight, and convention oversight, as well as serving as temporary volunteers at bethel, commuter bethelites, remote volunteers, bethel consultants, hospital liaison committee members, patient visitation group members, disaster relief committee members, local design/construction department field representatives and maintenance trainers, and so forth.

  approved assignments also include assisting with kingdom hall construction when such is done at the request of the branch office or its representatives overseeing the project, assisting with pre and post-assembly or convention work, assisting with work at assembly halls, conducting or participating in congregation meetings held in prison, as well as attendance at a theocratic school or class .

  when i was pioneering and doing pre and post-assembly work i was told i could include the time spent working in my monthly report, which i did.

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  This is not a change. It's been that way as long as I can remember - for decades. The things you mentioned in the OP were never supposed to be counted as field service time; they were supposed to be credited to the pioneer. It's just that most (even elders) did (or do) not understand that.

  It's kind of like "public reproof". There's no such thing, but most (even elders) think there is and don't understand the concept of reproof.
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  Are You Afraid of Contracting The Covid Virus?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thankfully my best friend who got this terrible malady is doing well after being in the hospital for more than two months!

  i see some people who are still petrified over this virus.

  they are still virtual prisoners in their own homes.

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  I get out all the time - grocery store, Home Depot, Tractor Supply, Lowe's, Walmart, etc.

  I eat a lot at a couple of local truck stops / travel centers, and worry about them most because people from all over are stopping there.

  So, I'm carrying on with life mostly as normal, but I am a little worried about getting it because I don't know how my body will react; I'm 60ish.

  A coworker's mother died from it last week; however, she already had a liver problem.
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  2020 Pioneer Seminar in German!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020-pioneer seminar video in german.. .

  this file was sent to us by an anonymous kind person.

  all files that are sent to atlantis are re-named, and a different download link is generated from the link the sender used.. .

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  Magnum

  Petra, thanks for relating the steps Atlantis takes to remove any possibility of the org's finding out who sends material. And, to think, they say us old farts don't know much about new technology and such. I can tell Atlantis knows what he's doing; I understand the reasoning behind each step.

  By the way, I would like to be added to your list to receive new material. Do you send the material by PM or should I send you an email address?