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HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

by DATA-DOG in

1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

suggestions welcome.. .

dd.

objectivetruth

Dis-Member - Thank you for your kind words.

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What a Quaint Timeline they've made - Fulfilling almost every prophet y in the bible in a 20 Year Span.

by objectivetruth in

i just saw this and was amazed by it :.

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200271564.

1914, 1,260 days begin (re 11:3): re 164; w94 8/1 31; w93 11/1 9-10. appointed times of the nations end (lu 21:24): w06 7/15 6-7; bh 215-218; w04 2/1 19-20; jv 134-142, 635-636. forty-two months begin (re 11:2; 13:5): re 162-164, 192. fulfillment of transfiguration vision begins (mt 17; mr 9; lu 9): w97 5/15 11. heavenly woman bears son (re 12:1-5): re 177-180. jehovah comes as a strong one (isa 40:10): ip-1 406. kingdom established: w12 8/1 16-17; w06 7/15 6-7; bh 84-85; jv 138-139; lmn 23-24. king of the north comes against the south (da 11:29): dp 261-262, 264; w93 11/1 14. kings take stand against jehovah and his anointed (ps 2:1, 2): w90 7/1 27-28. last days begin: rs 239-240. lords day begins (re 1:10): re 22, 24; w03 5/15 10. mountain of olive trees split (zec 14:4): w13 2/15 19. once held to be year when great tribulation began: w13 7/15 3-4. root of jesse will stand up (isa 11:10): ip-1 165-166. sacred secret brought to a finish (re 10:7): re 171-172; w90 1/15 20. seven times end (da 4): w06 7/15 6-7; re 22, 24; bh 216-218; dp 96-97, 301; kl 97; pe 138-141; rs 95-97; it-1 134-135; w86 11/1 4-7. shiloh receives right to obedience of the peoples (ge 49:10): w02 10/1 19. the time appointed (da 11:29): dp 261; w93 11/1 13-14. time, times, and half a time begin (da 7:25; 12:7): dp 142-143, 294-296; w94 8/1 31; w93 11/1 9-10. times of restoration begin (ac 3:21): bt 31; cl 77-78; w87 3/1 28. true lord and messenger of the covenant come to spiritual temple (mal 3:1): w13 7/15 11-12.

objectivetruth

I just saw this and was amazed by it :

http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200271564

1914, 1,260 days begin ( Re 11:3 ): re 164; w94 8/1 31; w93 11/1 9-10

“appointed times of the nations” end (Lu 21:24): w06 7/15 6-7; bh 215-218; w04 2/1 19-20; jv 134-142, 635-636

“forty-two months” begin (Re 11:2; 13:5): re 162-164, 192

fulfillment of transfiguration vision begins (Mt 17; Mr 9; Lu 9): w97 5/15 11

heavenly woman bears son (Re 12:1-5): re 177-180

Jehovah comes “as a strong one” (Isa 40:10): ip-1 406

Kingdom established: w12 8/1 16-17; w06 7/15 6-7; bh 84-85; jv 138-139; Lmn 23-24

king of the north ‘comes against the south’ (Da 11:29): dp 261-262, 264; w93 11/1 14

‘kings take stand against Jehovah and his anointed’ (Ps 2:1, 2): w90 7/1 27-28

last days begin: rs 239-240

Lord’s day begins (Re 1:10): re 22, 24; w03 5/15 10

‘mountain of olive trees split’ (Zec 14:4): w13 2/15 19

once held to be year when great tribulation began: w13 7/15 3-4

‘root of Jesse will stand up’ (Isa 11:10): ip-1 165-166

‘sacred secret brought to a finish’ (Re 10:7): re 171-172; w90 1/15 20

“seven times” end (Da 4): w06 7/15 6-7; re 22, 24; bh 216-218; dp 96-97, 301; kl 97; pe 138-141; rs 95-97; it-1 134-135; w86 11/1 4-7

Shiloh receives right to “obedience of the peoples” (Ge 49:10): w02 10/1 19

“the time appointed” (Da 11:29): dp 261; w93 11/1 13-14

‘time, times, and half a time’ begin (Da 7:25; 12:7): dp 142-143, 294-296; w94 8/1 31; w93 11/1 9-10

“times of restoration” begin (Ac 3:21): bt 31; cl 77-78; w87 3/1 28

‘true Lord and messenger of the covenant’ come to spiritual temple (Mal 3:1): w13 7/15 11-12

1914-1918, feet of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream image come into existence (Da 2:33, 41-43): nwt 1780; w12 6/15 19

seventh head of wild beast comes into existence (Re 13): w12 6/15 15

1918, 1,260 days end (Re 11:3): w94 8/1 31; w93 11/1 9-10

‘constant feature removed’ (Da 12:11): dp 297-298; w93 11/1 10-11

heavenly resurrection may begin: w07 1/1 28; re 103; w88 10/15 12-13

“holy ones” are conquered (Re 13:7): re 192

Jehovah cleanses temple (Isa 66:6): ip-2 396-397

judgment begins with “house of God” (1Pe 4:17): re 31-32, 260; w04 3/1 16

king of the north “dejected” (Da 11:30): dp 264; w93 11/1 14

once held to be year when master of slaves having talents came to settle accounts (Mt 25:19): w04 3/1 16

once held to be year when ‘true Lord and messenger of the covenant’ came to spiritual temple (Mal 3:1): w10 3/15 23; w07 4/1 22; w07 12/15 27-28; jd 179-182; re 31-32, 55-56; w92 12/1 13; w89 4/15 7; w89 7/1 30; w87 6/15 14-15

silence in heaven, incense offered (Re 8:1, 3, 4): w09 1/15 32; re 129-131

‘time, times, and half a time’ end (Da 7:25; 12:7): dp 143, 294-296; w94 8/1 31; w93 11/1 10

“two witnesses” killed (Re 11:3, 7): re 167-168

1919, 1,260 days begin (Re 12:6, 14): re 183-184

1,290 days begin (Da 12:11): dp 300; w93 11/1 10-11

144,000 begin “singing as if a new song” (Re 14:3): re 200

antitypical Festival of Booths resumes: w96 7/1 24

Babylon the Great falls (Re 14:8; 18:2): re 205-206, 209, 259-261; w89 5/1 3-5; w88 12/15 20-21

birth of new nation (Isa 66:8): re 183-184; ip-2 397-400; w94 1/15 14

‘disgusting thing placed’ (Da 12:11): dp 300; w93 11/1 10-11

“faithful and discreet slave” ‘appointed over master’s domestics’ (Mt 24:45): w13 7/15 21-22; w13 12/15 16

faithful slaves ‘appointed over many things’ (Mt 25:21, 23): w04 3/1 17

‘fire hurled to earth’ (Re 8:5): w09 1/15 32; re 131-132

flight to “valley of my mountains” begins (Zec 14:5): w13 2/15 19-20

‘four angels untied’ (Re 9:15): re 149-151; w88 12/15 13

“harvest of the earth” begins (Re 14:14-16): re 211-212

Jehovah’s chariotlike heavenly organization gets in touch with Ezekiel class (Eze 1): w91 3/15 11

Jehovah’s spirit begins to be poured out on remnant (Joe 2:28, 29): w98 5/1 14-15

“key of the house of David” placed on shoulder of remnant (Isa 22:22): w09 1/15 31

locusts swarm from abyss (Re 9): re 143-148; w89 4/1 17-18; w88 12/15 12-13

once held to be year “faithful and discreet slave” ‘appointed over master’s belongings’ (Mt 24:47): w04 3/1 12; wt 131

“opened door” set before remnant (Re 3:8): re 60-65

remnant “come quivering to Jehovah” (Hos 3:5): w91 8/15 17

remnant eat “little scroll” (Re 10:8-11): re 159-160

remnant figuratively resurrected: dp 290-291; w88 10/15 13; w87 7/1 21-23

remnant freed from Babylon the Great: ip-2 74; ip-1 400-401; w89 5/1 4-5

remnant ‘hold possession of land’ (Isa 60:21): w02 7/1 18; ip-2 319-320

remnant refined (Isa 1:24-27): ip-1 32-34

remnant restored to spiritual paradise: ip-1 380; w91 5/15 16

remnant step before “waters” of mankind (Jos 3:15-17): w86 12/15 13

two witnesses resurrected (Re 11:11, 12): re 169-170

virgins hear cry, “Here is the bridegroom!” (Mt 25:6): w04 3/1 14

“Way of Holiness” opened (Isa 35:8): ip-1 380-381; ws 132-134

“your God has become king” begins to be declared (Isa 52:7): ip-2 187

1922, 1,260 days end (Re 12:6, 14): re 184

1,290 days end (Da 12:11): dp 300, 303; w93 11/1 11

1,335 days begin (Da 12:12): dp 303; w93 11/1 11

cavalry charge begins (Re 9:16-19): re 152

flood of persecution begins: re 183-186

seven bowls begin to be poured out (Re 15, 16): re 220, 223

seven trumpets begin to sound (Re 8-11): w09 1/15 32; re 133, 149, 152; w90 4/1 31

1925, once held to be year when “ancient worthies” would be resurrected and remnant would receive heavenly reward: w93 11/1 11-12; jv 78, 632-633

1926, 1,335 days end (Da 12:12): dp 303-304; w93 11/1 11-12

1931, once held to be end of calling to heavenly hope: w07 5/1 30

1933, king of the north ‘hurls denunciations against holy covenant’ (Da 11:30): dp 265; w93 11/1 14

1938, 2,300 days begin (Da 8:14): dp 177-178

1939, ‘arms stand up, proceeding from king of the north’ (Da 11:31): dp 265-266; w93 11/1 15

1939-1945, ‘constant feature removed’ in lands of king of the north (Da 11:31): dp 267, 298; w93 11/1 15

1944, 2,300 days end (Da 8:14): w01 1/15 28; dp 178-179

1945, ‘disgusting thing placed’ (Da 11:31): dp 267, 269; w93 11/1 15-16

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HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

by DATA-DOG in

1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

suggestions welcome.. .

dd.

objectivetruth

I've decided to implement a new Rule.. There will now be a ZERO Tolerance policy in place against Humble Bragging, or Direct Insults of character veiled under the guise of Humility, knowledge or enlightment.

I will now supply 2 Examples of violations of this rule :

Example # 1

I'm really sorry that I wasn't able to respond to your message on JWN.. I have been so busy Feeding the poor, building a play ground, helping old ladies cross the street and, oh any way enough about me..

Example # 2

"Dear, Anonymous_lost_simpleton_JW - You have an air of superiority because you were a Jehovah's Witness don't you think ? When you were a JW you believed that you had all the answers. Your whole existence was based on the idea of "me" and "them". You and the JW's have the idea that the common rubble of humanity around them simply do not have the "special knowledge" you have.

You have no special knowledge in reality, I know this because everything knowable can be known, and I'm on the pathway of knowing it. After you left the WT and you saw behind the curtain and the immense fraud and arrogance of the "organization" you have still tried to remain special .. in fact, your need to be "right" and to "have all the answers" or to correct other's thinking is simply a fear of uncertainty.. perhaps, you still need an anchor.

It may be difficult to accept that you are as lost now as you were as a JW and just as likely to be wrong. People like you cling to dogmas of all kinds including science, to feel safe.

As I mentioned previously about myself, I'm on the pathway of enlightment, some call it Nirvana Buddhists would call it , attachment.

Some would say enlightenment and creativity are beyond attachment and as a great artist that I know a great deal about said, "Art is a serious of destructions." It may be, that life is a serious of destructions, not for people like you though, only for people like me with the courage to be free."

The first Violation of this rule will result in 3 Members of the forum posting a little sad face emoticon.

The second violation will Result In Death (The Gehenna type, NOT the Sheol Type)

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Members of the writing department has resigned

by hardtobeme in

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this is what i found at anointedjw.org.

i don't know if it's true.

on august 25, 2014, we received the following comment and inquiry: .

objectivetruth

Hardtobrme - Thank you for posting this.. It's interesting for sure.

I feel that this is a possibility.. Something almost identical to this has happened in the past.

Most of you probably know of Brother - Edward Dunlap, he was one of Brother Raymond Franz close friends.

These 2 brothers lead very busy lives in the organization, they did not have a lot of time to Dig deep and meditate on the scriptures..

When they began the Project of writing the Aid book, everything changed.. They were forced to dig deep, and consider things that they never had previously.. We all know the end result.

Since January 2014, I have noticed a palpable, change in the Tone of some Watchtower Study edition articles.. I have seen areas of these articles that place more importance in Jesus and His Example, than on "Obeying The GB".. These shades of humility and genuine concern for Truth in these writings, have not challenged any of the WT doctrines, but nonetheless there was something there.. If I were a JW apologist it would be easy to Dismiss what I have noticed, however I read WT articles in a very Critical & Prejudiced manner.. Despite my distrust for all WT Writings, some of this years watchtowers have surprised me and really stood out as Different.

With this in mind, if you have read the November 2014 Study WT you see how Baddd it is, it's absolutely ridiculous.

So Perhaps.. the Org has lost 3 More "Edward Dunlap's"

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HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

by DATA-DOG in

1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

suggestions welcome.. .

dd.

objectivetruth

“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”

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Koko The Gorilla Mourns Robin Williams

by metatron in

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/these-photos-of-koko-the-gorilla-mourning-the-loss-of-robin.

now, tell me again about that "unbridgeable gap between humans and animals".. .

metatron.

objectivetruth

Apogno - If you haven't previously, I'd recommend watching more videos of Koko.. She is truly Amazing, she had a Kitten that she took care of like it was her child.. When the kitten died Koko was deeply hurt for several days. - As Data said.. There is much more going on with animals than we realize, if you really take the time to get to know an animal and observe it You see that it is not much different than a human. I also beleive that animals are smarter than humans in some ways, if not smarter they know how to Love Purer.

77

Debunking the Bible

by Coded Logic in

there seems to be an endless number of ways to show the bible is not devinely inspired but all of it seems so complicated.

anyone know any simple arguements for this?

.

objectivetruth

Hey biblecreated - It's funny you mention "War of the Jews" I just started reading it last night.. It's quite interesting to get a different perspective.

Do you trust the accuracy and translation of the book?

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Hello

by ladystellas in

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hello i m ladystellas, new here.. greetings to all.. .

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objectivetruth

Hi LadyStella - Nice to meet you.. This is an awesome community, that will really grow on you over time. Everyone here Genuinely cares about each and every fellow member of the community.. No matter what your situation is, you will find comfort and new friends who care, and who accept you for the good human being that you are.

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HOW TO AVOID THE A-HOLE SPIRIT OF SOME HERE...

by DATA-DOG in

1) take meds for your megalomania and delusions of grandeur.. .

suggestions welcome.. .

dd.

objectivetruth

There is only 1 Thing worse than a Dirty Rotten Apostate, and that is a Dirty Rotten Atheist.

One thing worse than both though is a Dirty Rotten Zombie.

But in all seriousness.. Can all Atheists please only comment on posts that meet the following Criteria.

1. The Post has nothing to Do with Religion.

2. The Post is written in another language that is spoken by less than .001% of the World.

3. The Post is written by a Confirmed Member of the Governing Body, but does not violate Rule 1.

4. The post title contains this phrase. "FAO" That means For Atheists Only BTW. (Most FAO posts are created to Discuss Mein Kampf and Or anything written By Darwin.)

5. The Post is Dedicated to Prasing The Intelligence and High Moral Character of a Christian. (Rule #1 Still Applies)

If an Atheist at any time decides to Cease & Desist as an Atheist, he or she may apply for Re-Instatement and the Privilage to Comment and Participate in All Posts. A body of 7-12 Self Appointed Theists will dig into all areas of his (The Atheists) Life, and if any forms of Immorality,Depravity,Blasphemy or Cruelty to Kitties are found, The Body of Pious Theists will immediately denounce the Atheist as, well.. An Atheist.

The Body may then take turns saying things like "You should read the bible" or "I knew it" or "you are all the same" or "You should have listened to me" or anything else that will help the Atheist consider his life choices.

If there are any Atheists that dislike these new rules he/she can an post all of his concerns in Post Type #2 or #4.

Thank You for your time and concern.

With Christian Love,

THE OT

77

Debunking the Bible

by Coded Logic in

there seems to be an endless number of ways to show the bible is not devinely inspired but all of it seems so complicated.

anyone know any simple arguements for this?

.

objectivetruth

Comatose - Yes