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  In search of WWWW (What's Wrong with Watchtower)

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in more than 40 years of doorknocking not a single person was ever able to sit down with me and kindly and patiently explain exactly "what's wrong with watchtower" in simple terms and baby-steps that i could grasp at the time.. of course i have to admit it is not as easy as one might hope.. this morning one possible (not simple enough) summary came to mind:.

  the bible promotes belief in jesus and the liberating and transforming gospel message about him (in both the nt and ot).. the watchtower instead promotes belief in a visible golden calf and pseudo-mediator between god and man in the form of:.

  blind authoritarian clerics who have co-opted the word "elder" and turned it into a title (aka apostate "clericalism").

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   Great subject.  They do indeed advertise themselves as a mediator or go-between.

  Also another thing is cults are often putting themselves as mediator. The moonies did this as well.  This might help someone to see that this is a very common thing. Maybe you could show them the difference between what the bible says and what a group is saying about who or what is supposed to be the mediator. Admittedly I haven't done much research on the subject but there seems to be a direct connection between dispensing blood and being the mediator e.g. Moses sprinkled the blood of the sacrifice on the people . Also prayers going through who? There is probably more than this. If you really knew what you were talking about I think you could convince them by "Reasoning from the Scriptures" .
  
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  Resolutions to send money to society

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during the course of the year congregations pass a number of resolutions to send money to the branch.

  this year i've resolved to count all money grab endeavors.

  so far for the month of january there were two locally:.

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  runForever

  Would not this be easy to skim from? Just have your congregation give say 500 dollars

  send in to the society that it's for 300 dollars and you now have 200 more a month. :]
  
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  Why I like Jehovah's Witnesses

  by undercover witness in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i keep reading that jehovah's witnesses are in effect monsters.

  i keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake.

  so i simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?.

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   You have to think objectively. Sorry but it's true. 

  1) If I become a Jehovah's Witness but then decide it's not for me will they be friendly to me? 

  Answer____________________________________________

  2)Do the people I see on the street represent how everybody will act when I am inside?

  Answer___________________________________________

  3)Is it possible that if I do something that they deem being a troublemaker I will be thoroughly interrogated by 3-8 Elders by myself in a small room where they specifically tell me I can't have a tape recorder?

  Answer_______________________________________________
  
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  Will the WTS follow the McDonald's corporate model?

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as most people know, mcdonald's derives the principal part of its earnings, not from greasy food, but from real estate.. they buy property, then, in addition to charging franchisees for the right to use their name, they charge them rent for the building sitting on corporately-owned real estate.. this business model yields well over $20 billion per year in gross revenue.. could this be the idea behind the soon-to-come revamp of the rbcs into ldcs?

  the wts will purchase property and charge its "franchisees" (the congregations) a fee to use the building on the site?.

  of course, it wouldn't be called a "franchise fee" or even "rent", it would be named something like a "voluntary contribution to support kingdom interests" or some such folderol.. any "non-performing" congregations would get shut down and/or merged, and the property sold.

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  I got a McDonald's ad. Good job sir82

  
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: Stop! Do Not Attend Memorial!

  by runForever in

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  2. friends

  the freemasons also commemorate jesus death.

  it is a sick ritual do not attend this year!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8upjpzdbago.

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    The Freemasons also commemorate Jesus death.  It is a sick ritual do not attend this year!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UpjPzdBaGo
  
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  Will the WTS follow the McDonald's corporate model?

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as most people know, mcdonald's derives the principal part of its earnings, not from greasy food, but from real estate.. they buy property, then, in addition to charging franchisees for the right to use their name, they charge them rent for the building sitting on corporately-owned real estate.. this business model yields well over $20 billion per year in gross revenue.. could this be the idea behind the soon-to-come revamp of the rbcs into ldcs?

  the wts will purchase property and charge its "franchisees" (the congregations) a fee to use the building on the site?.

  of course, it wouldn't be called a "franchise fee" or even "rent", it would be named something like a "voluntary contribution to support kingdom interests" or some such folderol.. any "non-performing" congregations would get shut down and/or merged, and the property sold.

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  I'm just wondering who is or who will slaughter that manger-fed bull? Mmm ribeye.
  
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  Who is on Top of the Witness Money Chain?

  by runForever in

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  2. friends

  who is all this money benefiting?

  when you have hundreds of millions or billions of dollars there will be someone trying to tap into that.

  is it the governing body?

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    Who is all this money benefiting? When you have hundreds of millions or billions of dollars there will be someone trying to tap into that. Is it the Governing Body? Governing Body helpers?

  Is it mid level skimmers or local congregation frauds?  With all the money being centralized it's just going to get much much juicier.
  
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  Jesus Christ vs Christ Jesus

  by runForever in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  mentions in the wt.

  christ jesus:.

  jesus christ:.

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   I completely agree with you Doug. The context is the ultimate indicator. I would have to almost read every watchtower to do that or come up with some sophisticated software and that's just not going to happen. I know someone on here was doing just that with every watchtower in a searchable database and advanced search features but they haven't updated us.  So this is a good eyeball on the situation and some words like 'Christ Jesus' and 'Jesus Christ' do represent sentiment very well because they are not so context dependent.
  

  
  Here is FDS and FS:FDS and FS  
  
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  How to reply to- "just wait on Jehovah".

  by runForever in

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  2. friends

  all you have to say is "who says jehovah is not using me right now?

  " something to that effect.. if they say you are just a low-life nobody just point out amos nipper of figs.

  and if they say "do you think you're a prophet?

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   All you have to say is "Who says Jehovah is not using me right now?" Something to that effect.

  If they say you are just a low-life nobody just point out Amos nipper of figs. And if they say "Do you think you're a prophet?" say "God can even make the stones cry out!" :D
  
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  JW's have lost the will to Vacuum

  by runForever in

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  2. friends

  despite 2005 being a very popular year for vacuums vacuuming is now very unpopular with 0 mentions- an all time low.. awake magazine:.

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  Londo111: 2? one to spread dirt-one to vacuum?