new member here so don't attack :d here is a couple questions i have been contemplating lately.. .
if jw isn't the right religion, then which one is?
or is it basically believe in god, the bible and you'll be fine?.
World you act honest but I suspect a shill. Anyhow on the chance you aren't and you believe in the bible here it goes. Luke 21:8
completely describes perfectly the governing body past and present. They are saying "the due time has approached! the due time has approached!"
So then doesn't Jesus condemn them? And what did Jesus say about what he said: " I don't speak of my own originality." So who was saying that?
So where does that put Jehovah's Witnesses? Hint: Lake of Fire burning forever.
alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.
but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.
"The name 'Moses' sounds similar to the name of a certain Pharoah."
Ok Moses was trained in Egypt and could have had an Egyptian influenced name. Miriam is also another hebrewized Egyptian name.
15 july 1906 issue of the watch tower russell stated maria russell was the first who in 1894 "called attention to matt.
24:44-45, applying it to me at a meeting at allegheny and in another meeting with the new york church.
i demurred that i had not thought of the passage thus, and declined to make any personal application of it, although i could not deny the force of the argument....i urged great moderation in the making of any personal application" (p. r3811).
thanks for the info but I'm not going to praise Maria Russell for misleading tons of people. She was a charlatan as well.
alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.
but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.
"Forty years to walk accross a desert that could be walked accross in less than half a year, unlikely."
well it says God did that to them on purpose: " "So the LORD'S anger burned against Israel, and He made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until the entire generation of those who had done evil in the sight of the LORD was destroyed. "-numbers
the march 2015 study watchtower finally solves the mystery of the sheep and the goats:.
" first, note that jesus is teaching bymeans of an illustration.
obviously, he isnot talking about separating literal sheepfrom literal goats.".
The march 2015 study watchtower finally solves the mystery of the sheep and the goats:
" First, note that Jesus is teaching by
means of an illustration. Obviously, he is
not talking about separating literal sheep
from literal goats."
Wow there you have it- Jesus is not talking about literal goats and sheep! I feel so enlightened!
alot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.
but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.
Alot of people are saying God is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues. But didn't God achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?
i think this sucker could start reversing membership within a few months..
There is an answer to the other religions have survived argument.
Other religions don't rely so much on preaching to gain numbers. There is a superchurning inside the JW's. More and more hours are needed to gain members with US and UK numbers possibly already falling.
Second they have and do heavily rely on US and UK rich countries for the main flow of money. I just don't see too many ways out for them at this point. Are they going to start doing daycare and celebrating Christmas? If you look at pew survey it says most of these religions are surviving or
growing because they are dramatically adapting. I just don't see too much room for JW's to adapt.
i think this sucker could start reversing membership within a few months..
I think this sucker could start reversing membership within a few months.
in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.
special, private language).
jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.
The "society" was used heavily now it's called "the branch".
"District conventions" are now "regional conventions".
The "faithful and discreet slave" is now called "anti-christ".
while there are not too many currently defending the watchtower in this discussion forum, it happens from time to time.
and quite often, there may be new people and lurkers reading these discussions.
i just wanted you to ponder these questions.
j-dubbed: You are dealing with the best of the best cults. I've known people that lived and died swearing this is the truth. It is you and your family
vs a whole organization who regularly meets together. Maybe reading "combatting cult mind control" would help. If you want to go the bible
don't argue the trinity argue Jesus being the mediator to God and man and luke 21:8 false prophets/teachers. You have to not seem like you are just
trying to win the argument. Appeal to the heart etc. etc..
