Posts by fastJehu

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Apostate NT Canon

by Pterist in

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as mentioned in july 15th 2013 watchtower "the apostasy started in the first century and flourished by the fourth century" or words to that effect.. as i was reading ff bruce's "the bible canon" ($14 kindle ver.

on amazon) i was very surprised to read that there are no original nt documents from the first century, just copies of copies of copies of many documents from that period.

apparently the 27 book nt canon was not set until about the fourth century by trinitarian church fathers.

fastJehu

@ Pterist "... just copies of copies of copies of many documents from that period."

I watched this video from Professor Bart Dr. Ehrmann on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfheSAcCsrE

I found this link in another thread here in the forum. For me it was very enlightening.

He explained:
- " just copies of copies of copies of copies of copies..." and
- why the scribes changed there copy and
- why every copy was different from the copy before and
- why in all copies are more differences as words in the bible and
- why he tells his students, to read the gospels horizontally and not only vertically and a lot more.

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Post the funniest WTBTS quote you can think of

by DuvanMuvan in

just felt like a laugh.. if any funny quotes come to mind feel free to post them here.

fastJehu

*** w69 11/15 p. 692 par. 10 “Between-the-Lines” Translations of the Bible ***
However, in the interlinear literal translation of the Greek the English words are not taken bodily or directly from the New World Translation and placed under the appropriate Greek word. No! But under each Greek word is placed its basic meaning, according to its grammatical construction, whether this agrees literally with the New World Translation or not. What we as Bible students should want is what the original Greek text says. Only by getting this basic meaning can we determine whether the New World Translation or any other Bible translation is right or not.

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Post the funniest WTBTS quote you can think of

by DuvanMuvan in

just felt like a laugh.. if any funny quotes come to mind feel free to post them here.

fastJehu

*** w99 5/15 p. 27 The Christian Congregation—A Source of Strengthening Aid ***
Teri wrongly believed that Jehovah’s approval depended only on the amount of her service to him. (Contrast Mark 12:41-44.)

*** w68 7/1 p. 389 Is Your Religion the True One? ***
You have nothing to fear in examining your beliefs by the standard of God’s Word, for if you have the true religion you can only be reassured. And if what you believe is not in keeping with the Bible, then you should welcome the truth, because it leads to eternal life.

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Post the funniest WTBTS quote you can think of

by DuvanMuvan in

just felt like a laugh.. if any funny quotes come to mind feel free to post them here.

fastJehu

*** w11 11/15 p. 29 par. 5 Train Others to Reach Out ***
5 Like Jesus, Christian elders today befriend and help others. They cultivate a warm, close relationship with their fellow believers by taking time to show personal interest in them. While eldersrecognize the importance of confidentiality, they are not secretive. Elders trust their brothers and share with them Scriptural truths they themselves have learned.

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Top 10 WT changes

by JustVisting in

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add your own thoughts:.

top 10 wt changes if a mexican-american brother is appointed to the gb:.

10. zoot suits are now acceptable for talks.. 9.

fastJehu

*** w94 12/15 p. 3 What Does Christmas Mean to You? ***
SURPRISING as it may seem, of more than 1,000 people surveyed in Britain, only 6 percent considered Christmas to be primarily a religious occasion. In contrast, 48 percent thought of Christmas predominantly as a time to be with their family. Indeed, many maintain that it is a special time for children.

For christmas other rules are valid

*** g89 7/8 p. 30 From Our Readers ***
But for many, Christmas is celebrated by fraternizing in church with friends. Is this wrong?
E. L. L., Brazil
No doubt many endeavor to celebrate the supposed date of Jesus’ birth in a dignified way. Nevertheless, the article gave clear evidence that (1) Jesus never authorized any such celebration, (2) Jesus’ birth must have taken place in September/October (not December), and (3) many of the customs associated with Christmas are clearly of pagan origin. So the issue confronting those desiring to please God in their worship is, not how such a celebration might be carried on, but whether Christmas in any form has God’s approval.

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David Splane in Poland today

by FadeToBlack in

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just got back from watching jw.stream presentation at our local kh of a 'special' meeting at ursus assembly hall in warsaw.

all the congs in the country were tied in, but some will be watching replay later in the day.

there were 3 parts.

fastJehu

@cultBgone: " Btw, the sign language congregations have been using their own business cards for years...offering free sign language videos to the deaf, like a giveaway."

Printed by the congragations or official by bethel?

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Top 10 WT changes

by JustVisting in

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friends

add your own thoughts:.

top 10 wt changes if a mexican-american brother is appointed to the gb:.

10. zoot suits are now acceptable for talks.. 9.

fastJehu

Piñata ist still allowed

look at the chain of reasoning - because this chain is normally not allowed in JW-land:

*** g03 9/22 p. 24 The Piñata—An Ancient Tradition ***
When considering whether to include a piñata at a social gathering, Christians should be sensitive to the consciences of others. (1 Corinthians 10:31-33) A main concern is, not what the practice meant hundreds of years ago, but how it is viewed today in your area. Understandably, opinions may vary from one place to another. Hence, it is wise to avoid turning such matters into big issues.

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David Splane in Poland today

by FadeToBlack in

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just got back from watching jw.stream presentation at our local kh of a 'special' meeting at ursus assembly hall in warsaw.

all the congs in the country were tied in, but some will be watching replay later in the day.

there were 3 parts.

fastJehu

Quote Fade ToBlack: " Splane did mention that on Saturday he had been out in service with the host family he was staying with and that later his wife did some informal witnessing (in French) at a kebab restaurant during lunch. She had some card she gave the owner that directed him to jw.org."

WOW - that is the first offical mention of the new JW business cards (with JW.ORG) for all publishers. So family Splane is still using them already.

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Advice, TTATT or Bible

by Crazyguy in

i really starting to see the problems with the bible and it being influenced by other cultures, religions and also the fact that many of the books or letter were written after the fact or so called prophecy.

so i am wondering would it work better to try to wake my children to ttatt about the jw cult or work on destroying the bible and its credibility?

which do you think would work better??

fastJehu

For me TTATT about the JW.
As a 3rd generation JW "kid" I was always told NEVER to lie, because satan is the father of the lie and jehovah hates the lie.

Then I saw all the lies.

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There are some questions I have had about the JWs view "post-Armaggeddon"

by booker-t in

i have always wondered how jws believe about "post-armaggeddon" earth.

question#1 how will jws survivors bury all of the dead bodies.

with about 4 billion people on earth today how can 8 million jw(1/2 of them children and babies) bury all of those dead bodies?

fastJehu

@ NewYork44M ... " One thing I never understood about living forever is how we will maintain our teeth."

Here another thing about teeth, I never understood:

*** gt chap. 133 Jesus Finishes All God Asks ***
Think of it! Under Jesus’ loving attention, the entire human family—Armageddon survivors, their offspring, and the thousands of millions of resurrected dead who obey him—will grow toward human perfection.

JWs survive Armageddon.
How many dentists will be among this surviving JWs?
Enough to medicate all?

A clear NO.

Also a clear fact (for me), that it can NOT last 1000 years to get human perfection.

Another point: the resurrected will have perfect teeth (god can not resurrect imperfect humans - because all his doing is perfect).
So after Armageddon there will be 2 classes of people: surviving JWs with imperfect teeths, and resurrected with perfect teeth.