there are many things wrong with the world, many injustices and crimes committed.
what if we could stop one of them?
wouldn't it make the world a slightly better place?
Wow!
Well I must say Simon, I think over all I obey the typing rules, and I do skip posts that have a bad layout, but really aren't you being a little OCD about it.
You have mentioned it before and I don't think you're going to change those who don't use proper layouts.
I may be wrong though.
Kate xx
being that this is not "ex jws" and in fact, more driven by atheists talking a bunch of crap, im not even going to address you people like you know anything about jws because you dont.
nor am i going to assume you know the bible because none of you do.. and yes, im speaking down at you all because you men have actually went out your way to make a site to speak down at an entire group of people.
yet i bet you cant even handle a single uswer talking down at you, like you talk down about jws can you?.
Goodbye ARS it was strange having you here. Your anger on this site was unjustified. I am a believer, but I don't hate atheist's or generalise that they are stupid.
I am an xJw and come here for support and to give support to those struggling. You are wrong about this site because you didn't take the time to get to know us all.
Goodbye
Kate xx
the outside world is noticing:.
the watchtowers "jehovahs witness" cult... the watchtowers "governing body" jehovahs witnesses pray for... and... the people who expose them... .
dr. james a. beverley.
Very interesting article. Thanks Outlaw.
Kate xx
i find that when talking people who say they "used to be a jehovah's witness" they say words that show they have in fact, never been one.
it's like a man that worked for the post office for 30 years in a main major urban hub like chicago or new york... and you ask him, "in your last position, what was your rdo?
" and the man says "whats an rdo?".
OMG what another silly OP.
Who the heck is this new poster. Such silly arguments, and with no goal or purpose. Really ARS, what are you trying to achieve to tell a forum full of current and ex JWs that we are not genuine about our circumstances?
I can't really believe that people like this exist.
Kate xx
so i was just informed by my wife that her grandmother (who's also out) has been told by a 'sister' from her old hall that during their most recent circuit visit the co said something along the lines of:.
isn't it faith strengthening that the number of anointed is falling in relation to the increase in publishers?
!.
I very much doubt that statement is true, the increase of publishers is negligible. The increase of partakers is noticeable. The fact is the number has been increasing for over ten years and it was only last year that the GB made them redundant.
They have no purpose now.
It's all nonsense!!!
Kate xx
my wife is listening in today.
i hear the speaker talking about "godless" people.
they have not made a thorough investigation about creationism vs evolution.
Well I fell for it hook, line and sinker. Every time the WT talked science I was duped and sucked in. Now I cringe at the thought of it and the thought I taught my kids such nonsense.
Kate xx
do you believe the marketing of jay w org will convert more people or help inactive ones remain indoctrinated?
I don't think the marketing of JW.org alone will indoctrinate people or keep inactive ones in. but I think it helps alongside the lovebombing.
The WT is a very social group. If it's seen to be up to date with modern technology although having old fashioned views it might aid with the recruitment process. But the main way to recruit is through lovebombing, most members are genuine and really care sincerely about the people they preach to. This leads to lots of socialising.
That's how I got involved anyway. I got an instant circle of friends.
Kate xx
"there have been repeated scientific challenges to the.
theory of evolution in the past, and the nonbelievers of evo-.
lution cite them as support for their case.
Well what a wonderful thread. I feel embarrassed to have a belief in God when I see such OP's. I think when you leave WT it's very difficult to maintain a belief in God, but those who post that they do seem to jump into some kind of unbalanced evangelical mode that simply put, is silly.
Come on there must be some believers like me, who haven't gone full swing into this mode. Please post if you have been posting here for a while and still retained a belief but accept that atheists have their opinions too that we can respect.
I am sick of posters like this giving believers a bad name.
Kate xx
long time no see.. so, since i last posted on here, jws drove my sister to attempt suicide again (she failed, but it was close) and drove my close childhood friend to actually commit suicide.
i too kmy sister in and helped her recover.
i think she's going to pull through.
I am so sorry you lost your friend and nearly lost your sister. I hope you can help her get back on her feet and have a little success in her life.
You seem pretty strong and stable. Well done for that I can recognise it has not been easy for you but you have pulled through and are in a good position to help your sister.
Well done
Kate xx
i've been reading many of the postings on this forum for a couplefew years, finally joined today.
i think reading cappytan, and others like that, compelled me to share, it seems i might have a bit of a different outcome than many i have read, perhaps it will be hopeful/helpful to someone.. i was a born-in, 3rd gen jw, my entire family (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and most all of my childhood friends) were in.
some dropped by the wayside as the years went on, but many stayed in, and if they didn't, they still acted/talked as if they believed it was "the truth" and it was their weaknesses/failings that made them stop attending.
Welcome AFreeBeliever,
I too wanted to hold on to the bible as a message from God when I left WT, but sadly the more I read it the less it seemed credible as the word of God.
I haven't experienced any mercy from God, so I really don't believe he is benevolent. However science has lead me to the conclusion a guided process was involved in evolution and so I still believe in a creator.
Kate xx
