Posts by SadElder

12

The slave - Discreet?

by A Paduan in

as jws what did you understand the term "discreet" to mean ?

What do you plan to give trick-or-treaters?

by Swan in

jw
friends

at our house we hand out two snack-sized candy bars to each gremilin and ghoul (snickers and milky way).

we get about 20 visitors, so we have to get rid of the candy some way.

what treats will you be handing out on halloween night?

Actually in our neighborhood the snooty little brats that live here wouldn''t think of going door to door asking for candy. Besides their Mummies would consider it a major social faux paus to drive them around and heaven forbid they should have to walk. Those $300 Mephisto "walking" shoes might get scuffed.

7

Is this for real?

by flower in

jw
friends

is the society really ok with this or is there like a rebel band of witnesses who set these up and run it against the societys wishes?

i wonder what the word in the kh is about sites like this.

i know when i was a jw i would never have believed i'd see something like this...not legitimately run by jw's anyway.

SadElder

I am sure this fits into their definition of "beware the voice of strangers'. In due time likley there will be an article in the Awake or a KM about this. Maybe even a letter to the elders.

49

Are you a music person?

by FlyingHighNow in

jw
friends

my ex jw exhusband didn't care much about music.

he preferred the natural sounds of life to music.

i have a coworker who doesn't listen to music: she doesn't like it.

SadElder

My ex JW exhusband didn't care much about music

Oh my, imagine life without music. Reminds me of a Bethelite I knew who never watched TV or listened to the radio. When I asked him how he stayed current with world events, he said the Awake! told him everything he needed to know. Oh my, Oh my. How sad.

Just about every room in our house is linked to the music room's system. All the bedrooms have their own system but linked to the main center downstairs too. Every CD we buy is copied into our file server so it's accessible

We're working on plans now for our Florida house which will have a more sophisticted link, maybe even fiber optic links. We want all the video and music systems linked. Also looking into the new media hubs that link the PC's to the audio system.

27

Who is running the show in the WT Org? Who is actually in control?

by fearnotruth22 in

SadElder

The strongest influence remains Ted "The Boss" Jaracz. He heads one of the most powerful committees on the GB boards. i.e. Service Dept. AKA Bethel CIA. Also is the permanent coordinator of the Chaiman's committee or some such group. So he has his fingers into everything that goes on.

7

Ponzi Scheme?

by Odrade in

speaking of kingdom halls... .

so the society asks for donations to build kingdom halls.

it then takes the donated money and loans it back to the very people who just donated it and charges them interest!

SadElder

Actually the big Borg no longer collects interest on KH loans. They stopped this practice several years ago, just aout the time they stopped invoicing congregations for a share of the costs of the CO cars. Once I had quite a heated discussion with a certain GB member aka The Boss over some of these practices. As far as I know the WTS does not hold deeds to KHalls and I'm not aware of any recent changes to this policy. The ownership is held by the local Cong. either by a corporation or a trust depending on the local laws.

10

Workers Comp Insurance and Quick Builds?

by Maverick in

in any construction project a percentage of the cost is for insurance.

in a private home, at least 10% of the total cost is for workmans comp insurance.

this means that for a $250.000 house, $25,000 of that is for this type of insurance.

SadElder

It's been five years or so since I was involved in any QB projects, but at that time all projects were covered under the WTS self-insurance program. However, if any small claims came up the congregation was encouraged to cover these locally so as not to impact the Lord's money.

The society has latched onto the idea of quickbuilds because they save money

Quickbuilds do not save money. In fact they cost more money. When we did a small KH remodel we found that we could do the job for less by finding materials ourselves. Considerably less. Each congregation is assessed a fee to have the Quick Build group involved in the project. This is supposed to cover their phone calls, etc. In reality it becomes a way to collect money, again.

In another state my brother in law reports that an elder was siphoning off some of this money for his personal use. This was hushed up quick. He was never reproved and no money was ever returned to anyone's knowledge.

5

Where is "Watchtower Hospice"? Where are the WTS lawyers?

by Nathan Natas in

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/7100394.htm

posted on sat, oct. 25, 2003 .

dying mother can rest easy.

SadElder

WT Hospice non-existent. WT lawyers too busy trying to take over the rule of the WTS to be bothered with trivia.

A couple of years ago a friend in another state told me of a situation regarding a young fellow of about 14. Mother was a JW albeit a relatively new one. Mother was dieing of some type of cancer, don't remember what. At the death of the mother, the only dub in the cong. to come forward was a widowed brother about 40 or so maybe a little older. The dubs and the CO had a fit that he was going to take in the kid. A single man doesn't do those things, according to them. The CO said we just have to recognize that we can't help everyone or some such drivel. I don't know all the details, but I do know that the kid was taken in by the child welfare system. Guess he's better off.

33

Are You Surprised By How Few Witnesses Have Called You???

by minimus in

jw
friends

i've had a few people just recently call or try to visit with me and let me know that we are "missed".

but in reality, the phone hardly ever rings with a witnesses calling on the other end to see how we are.

after spending a lifetime in the organization, it would seem that this couldn't happen......but, i'm glad i'm not getting harrassed either.......did you get calls and visits from those that "missed" you??

SadElder

Surprised? I would be surprised if they call. Isn't it interesting, having been a "pillar of the church" so to speak both financially and spiritually, that as I've reduced my involvement I haven't been on anyone's list of concern. Recently I had emergency surgery and was hospitalized for more than a week. Saw two elders from my hall. During my eight week recuperation had two elders visit and one of those was shamed into it. No other elders bothered to call either.

It?s been 6 months since I turned in a FS report and not one word. Since I resigned as an elder about two years ago I have not uttered one word in any meeting, nor stepped foot on the platform, nor visited a book study. Yet not one word. Amazing? I think not. The "love of the greater number" has indeed cooled off. Yet if someone?s in trouble or needs hospital / medical advice I sure do get a phone call real quick. I?m becoming less and less available.

67

Question for the gentlemen.....

by Surreptitious in

what brand of laundry detergent do you like to use?

SadElder

We use 'Mildred' it comes on Monday's and Friday's and does the laundry. Does a nice job too, been at it at our house for 15 years I think.