Posts by SadElder

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Whats the worst dish you ever served???

by Tez in

i am a reasonable cook when i can be bothered (as paulj will hopefully confirm) but often resort to quick and easy methods, packet mixes, tins etc.. whereas my parner is a brilliant cook!!

leave him in the kitchen for a little while and he produces something from scratch that is delicious.

so today i decided to extend my culinary skills!

Is The Watchtower Dumping Statistics?

by metatron in

jw
friends

something interesting didn't happen in september.

the society failed to publish the us.

statistics for june.

Numbers are extremely important to them. Since the Service Dept. (Bethel CIA) actually is running most things like this, don't expect them to change reporting and the numbers game to any great degree. That would be giving up too much control.

An experiment is underway right now to test reporting (by congregations, not individuals) of field service time via the internet. To what extent this will evolve we haven't heard yet.

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WT Against Higher Education...Again

by Jeannine in

the october 1, 2005 watchtower slams higher education in a 5 page analysis on why it is better to pioneer than go to college.

i recieved this wt today and i was shocked by the statements in there.

i can fax a copy to anyone who wants it.

SadElder

But, oh how they have tried to suck the marrow out of those of us who are professionals.

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The Extremely Rich, What do they do with it?

by joelbear in

jw
friends

i'm comfortable but by no means rich.

i own just about everything i could possibly want.

i have travelled all over the us and some of canada.

SadElder

While we've been blessed with more than some and not as much as others, I think we've always tried to help others not so gifted when the need arose. Many times those we've helped never knew where the help came from. That's just the way we work.

We've always viewed the proper use of wealth to be a responsibility not to be taken lightly.

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WTS Emergency Meeting

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

the disaster relief committee at patterson organized 3 meetings this past memorial day, monday september 5, 2005. the meetings were held in lake charles, louisiana; bossier city, louisiana; and ball, louisiana.

over 1,200 elders were in attendance from louisiana, missouri, arkansas, and texas.

i took horrible notes, but want to share a few things.. the elder opening the meeting emphasized the importance of confidentiality.

SadElder

Perhaps someone who has contacts with the Red Cross executive staff could confirm that the dubs were actually refused access. If this is not the case, then the Red Cross would have cause to sue the WT for slandering their name. I'd like to see them do it. Though I admit a private home is better than any shelter.

Kenneson: Dubs in Florida were read letters after the hurricanes last year informing them that Kingdumb Halls were NOT to be used as shelters. Inessence don't run here if yu get in trouble. The tenor of the letter was that the Halls are not insured for such things and poorly equipped to handle relief. (Makes me angry every time I relate this.)

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Suggestions for donations to Hurricane relief efforts

by SadElder in

jw
friends

we sure that your hearts, like ours, are touched by the disaster of katrina and the impact for time to come on those directly affected.

not only have these folks lost homes but many will have lost jobs as well.

there will surely by pleas for monitary help from those intent only on lining their pockets.. any experience with those who should and shouldn't be sent donations?

SadElder

We sure that your hearts, like ours, are touched by the disaster of Katrina and the impact for time to come on those directly affected. Not only have these folks lost homes but many will have lost jobs as well. There will surely by pleas for monitary help from those intent only on lining their pockets.

Any experience with those who should and shouldn't be sent donations? We'd like to do some more to help besides what we've already done but aren't particularly fond of the Red Cross.

Thanks to all for your ideas.

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Hurr. Katrina and the WTS' slacking hand

by doinmypart in

jw
friends

i work in a business that is dealing with the aftermath of hurricane katrina.

in perusing a list of shelters in the affected areas i see civic centers, schools, several churches, but no kingdom halls (gasp!).

imagine that!.

SadElder

You will not see Kingdumb Halls on lists of shelters. Friends in Florida last year were read a letter from the borg instructing them not to come to Kingdom Halls in case of a weather emergency such as hurricanes. Something about insurance issues.

What a crock.

So the Kingdom Hall is supposed to be the center of true worship, but only in fair weather. Makes me boil just repeating it.

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JWs who were actually cool

by Black Man in

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friends

we always talk about the crazy j-dub fundy types, but i knew some cool jws (co, do, bethelites, pio) during my time.

this is kind of a "where are they now" post along with acknowledginig some jws who were cool and down-to-earth.

as with most "cool" and good people in the borg, most of them are either not jws anymore (burned out) or are not "serving" in responsible positions (funny how that works, isn't it).

SadElder

There have been some we've known along the way who were great people and a real boost to others.

Weldon Howze, kind and considerate.

Met a Bethelite when we were doing our volunteer shifts from the Society's recording studio - Doug Loudin, didn't stay long at Crooklyn, think they probaby drove him crazy. Had good insight.

Way back we remember Jim Hinderer, a CO later called to teach TMS school. Probably more a company man now. Back then just a regular kind of guy.

Wonder where they are and what they think of things now?

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In 70 words or less - Tell one person the 'truth about the Truth'...

by AK - Jeff in

without use of profanity, vulgarity, or sarcasm.

tell this hypothetical person who is still a dyed in the wool witness clearly why he/she should leave.

do it in such a way that he/she will not bolt for the door screaming "get behind me satan" - in other words, use tact to anti-witness.. jeff

SadElder

A lot of refuse and striving after the wind.

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Jehovah's Witnesses: How Their Subculture is Fading Away.

by metatron in

jw
friends

i am old enough to remember the days when conventions lasted many long days and large.

numbers of brothers were employed in preparing hot meals served on trays, army-style.

also recall how good these steam cooked meals tasted - and how policemen, assigned to.

SadElder

Well said.

I look back, with a special fondness, at the times spent in pre-convention work. The days and hours spent with dear friends, many who have long since past. The downfall of this started with telling the friends that the only ones qualified to work in various departments were ministerial servants and elders. They trained the folks to no longer be volunteers. In essence they told them you're not good enough to give, get the hell out of here. So that's what they've done, gotten out. Now look how hard it is to get people to work at conventions.

The controlling interests in Brooklyn would have dubs do nothing but go in service, read the Watchtower, and go to meetings. Anything else is scummy dross in their opinion.

Why is that beautiful Kingdom Hall properties can't be used as a secure place for our children to meet and play, and picnic together? Now congregations are told don't you dare come to a Kingdom Hall in time of disaster, we don't have the insurance for it. The Kindom Hall is a center of pure worship only at the whim of the legalistic minds in Brooklyn. To hell with them.