Posts by talesin

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just wanted to introduce myself

by TheMark in

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i've been a lurker for quite some time and enjoy the forum.

i've reached a point in life where i don't argue ideologies anymore so i don't have much to say.

i've been out for decades and believe i've been mostly de-cultabilized (if that's even a word).. my family is still in and i haven't had contact with them in years.

Millions now Living Will Never Die

by skin in

this is the title of a watchtower book published 95 years ago in 1920 by j f rutherford.

it still gets an occasional mention at meetings about how it was a turning point in the history of the watchtower.

but how many witnessess today can answer this question.who are these millions of people alive in 1920 that would never die?

talesin

omg, the last 2 comments had me laughing hard! LOL

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Why do "Apostates/exjws" always go into "Watchtower-bashing" when you show them inconsistencies in the Bible?

by booker-t in

i have noticed with "apostates/exjws" they always resort to "watchtower-bashing" whenever you show them inconsistencies of the bible.

we could be talking about contradictions, such as where did cain get his wife if adam,eve, abel, and cain were the only ones on earth?

the usual answer when they cannot answer will be "well the wt gave false prophecies in 1975".

Hi, booker-t. It seems to me, that for many ex-JWs, especially those who swallowed the Lie as adults, everything is about the WT. They can't have a discussion about religion or the Bible, unless it involves the WT and bashing.

That's normal. They are angry, and unable to let it go. Still reeling from having their lives stolen, feeling stupid for having believed the now-obvious lies of the WTS. Hurt, embarrassment, anger - it's hard to 'see' anything else, in this moment.

xx

tal

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new neighbors

by Theredeemer in

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friends

so, my wife and i purchased a house about a month ago and recently we met our new neighbors.

they are an older couple.

they are very nice and even brought us cookies.. in conversation they brought up that they were mormons and mentioned how much they loved it.

talesin

Hi. From my life experience, I would say "recruitment dinner". They identified as Mormons on first contact. Now, they learned you are a 'fallen' JW - this is when the new fundamentalist friend will jump to SAVE you! I've had it happen more than once.

Since these people are your physical neighbours, I will quote my father "good fences make good neighours". The invitation has been accepted. By all means, attend and enjoy. As another poster said, they are like the JWs, and most likely very pleasant folk. Let them pitch their religious talk, but like most non-religious people, don't take the bait.

Be casual in your non-belief, as if it is normal. IT IS! :D Leave with a smile, after you have, by your lack of interest in reilgious discussion, dispelled any fantasies they have about converting or saving you.

If you feel you must reciprocate the dinner invitation as a neighbourly gesture, do so. Once. Then, remain as that 'friendly family next door' who never really has the time to socialize. Once they realize you are not interested in Religion and God, they will most likely stay to themselves anyhow.

Luck!

tal

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New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!

by hardtobeme in

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it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.

he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.

if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".

talesin

dozy - mentally-challenged going in field service? I had never thought of that ... just another reason to hate the bOrg.

tal

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Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?

by cha ching in

to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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talesin

their shunning of me is their way to hide from what happened in that house. While I believe that the religion provided the right environment that nurtured my parents' abusiveness decades ago, what happened in that house had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with what two adults decided to do to their children. Yet, they don't have to answer for it because they shun me. Good thread topic.

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GMA Sara Haines marrying a gay sympathizer? -- please alert Anthony Morris (GB)

by FatFreek 2005 in

good morning america this morning featured their co-anchor sara haines and her husband-to-be (next weekend?

), roasting them and just having a good time.

however, and i don't know how to put this, he was wearing those anthony morris (governing body) no-nos -- leg hugging trousers.

talesin

Well, I just thought hmmmm .......

Prince, though more modestly dressed than in the 80s, still wears 'skinny leg' pants.

(Just how embarrassing is it for JWs when confronted with the "Thieves in the Temple" video, and Prince's ass-less chaps sans undergarments?)

t

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I Waited Until My Wedding Night To Lose My Virginity And I Wish I Hadn't...

by Divergent in

i found this article interesting & just wanted to share.

after going through my teenage years trying to be the perfect jw, i realized that trying to live up to the standards imposed on me have been for worse & not for better.

i was feeling miserable, repressed, unfulfilled, with a great lack of self confidence & self esteem.

talesin

lambsbottom, your apology is negated by the comments that follow it.

It's unfortunate that you feel the need to belittle others' feelings in order to express your own pain. Instead of making snarky and insincere comments, you may find it more constructive to examine why you have such a strong and negative reaction to this subject.

Oh, and if you were truly sensitive to the thousands who are dying of starvation, you would *not* use the term "First world" - it is denigrating to the so-called "Third world countries", and is sooo 80s. ;)

tal

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Interview with an "Unbelieving Mate" (UBM): Gary Neal

by garyneal in

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talesin

Gary, that was a heart-breaking read. It has been quite a journey for you and your wife, and I wish you all the peace and happiness you can find.

Now that I think about it more, most of the UBM's that I can recall were always the husbands. I wonder if that's because a believing husband will tend to drag his unbelieving wife to the meetings or a wife just be more submissive and willing to go along with it? (yeah, us men are more stubborn and pig-headed, LOL).

Interesting question, Simon, and I have a different answer.

As a young JW woman, the pickings were SLIM. Not many zealous brothers that I admired, who were also attractive to my 18 YO eyes. And a lot of the JW boys led double lives andl felt they could pick and choose. One of them (a friend at the time, who later became Brother Zealous Elder) even had the nerve to tell me "Oh, don't worry about not being asked out - we like to have our fun with the slutty girls, but YOU are the marrying kind. Your turn will come". That was a turn-on (NOT), to know that they expected purity, but I was getting 'used goods'. hahaha

A lot of 'worldly' guys are very impressed with JW girls. So the JW girl strays, becomes inactive or DF, and is totally blown away at the number of guys who are asking her out, etc. She gets married, has a kid, and the next thing you know BOOM, JW guilt hits and she returns to the KH, and hubbie is now a UBM.

tal

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Make Sure You Keep Your Battery Up-to-Date

by fulltimestudent in

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/11/14/smart-energy/imagine-1000-gigafactories-thats-whats-coming.

so - are we really about to exit the age of fossil fuels?

should i now sell my oil shares?

talesin

It's interesting to note that "Industry" is the sector which uses the most energy. with "Transportation" a distant second. Residential and personal use lags far behind that of industry.

Individuals are always being told to 'save energy' and switch off a lightbulb or change to the newest energy-saving thingamajiggy, when we should be looking to our 'captains of industry' to be producing smart energy (sheesh, Tesla figured it out a century ago, wake up!), and most importantly..........

STOP the mindless consumerism - that is how we shut down all the needless factories that are nothing more than cash cows for the filthy rich.

Oh, and here's a graph that shows world energy consumption by sector, first pie graph on the left.

http://www.iogen.ca/energy-future/index.html

t