Posts by talesin

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Are you ready for armageddon?

by atomant in

just imagine the panic.disbelief.oh my god they were right.then you pee in your pants.what will l do?the plea for forgiveness.please let me through.l promise l''ll change.l didn;t mean what l said on that jw.com site.l was jokin.then you wake up it was only a dream.disbelief turns to relief.

but it could happen..

talesin

which Christian sects interpretation, if any, would be correct? And if the JW's are wrong and they are actually on the wrong side of God's teachings, would they then be destroyed at armageddon?

a) There are so many sects, like (or unlike) the JWS, that would be an huge task to study, but it's an interesting question.

b) It would depend on the teachings. If the cult with the 'correct' teaching (doctrine) believed the JWS would survive, they would. If the cult or sect with the 'correct' doctrines believed they would be destroyed, they would be destroyed.

It's all subjective. xx

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Are you ready for armageddon?

by atomant in

just imagine the panic.disbelief.oh my god they were right.then you pee in your pants.what will l do?the plea for forgiveness.please let me through.l promise l''ll change.l didn;t mean what l said on that jw.com site.l was jokin.then you wake up it was only a dream.disbelief turns to relief.

but it could happen..

talesin

Just prior to his 90th birthday Churchill said,
"I am well prepared to meet my maker. Whether he is prepared for the ordeal of meeting me is another matter."

Yes, G-d. Watch out for that old woman with a big STICK. As my father would say "I have a bone to pick with you."

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Image result for old woman with big stick

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Jehovah’s Witnesses are Taught to Lie but to then Lie about Lying

by Terry in

jehovah’s witnesses are taught to lie but to then lie about lying.

first off, let’s define what it means to tell a lie.

i prefer the definition offered by aristotle way back in 4th century b.c.e.

talesin

That's a good analysis of a JWS mindset, and how the blogger interprets "Theocratic Warfare" (TM). His twisted reasoning could provide 'justification' in the mind of a JW. The blogger is so good, that I just threw up a little bit in my mouth, reading it. I wonder if he is an elder and/or widely read by other JWS? Scary.

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Awww, you "love and miss us"? Really? Then why ignore us?

by stuckinarut2 in

so we received the obligatory "shoved under the door" memorial invitation and "return to jehovah" brochure the other week.

it also had a hand written note from two elders saying "we love and miss you" etc.... so why then when one of them saw us at the grocery store, did he pretend to not see us and then ignore and quickly walk away?.

the sincerity is wonderful..... dont get me wrong, we dont want any attention from them, but it's an interesting observation anyway.....

talesin

For me, that expression was 'the last straw' in having family ties. Said at my grandfather's visitation at the funeral home, and I was in grief and so put off by the phoniness of it all. I replied "Oh, really? My number is in the book."

That was the last time I saw most of my rellies. And good riddance. xx

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I got my Memorial invite! I got my Memorial invite!

by Dagney in

jw
friends

my first one!

even though i got it saturday, march 26, in the mail in an envelope addressed to "my dear neighbor.".

it's the thought that counts..

talesin

I've never received one. :D

Better never than ever.

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out for a long time

by Sledracer in

my husband and i have been out for a long time, maybe fifteen years, i must say we are in a bit of a nowhere land spiritually, we find it impossible to attend any other church.

we really resent so much of how they messed up our and our children's lives.

we can't get back all those 25 years we were in.

talesin

ahem ...

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Some thoughts on guilt.

by New day in

had an interesting conversation with my wife recently.

she struggles with physical, emotional and psychological problems which have often caused her to miss meetings.

she mentioned how she is equally tortured by guilt if she misses meetings and ministry, and severe stress if she does them.

talesin

I can only imagine the pressure she is under from the BOE and others in the congregation. You have stepped down, are inactive (which is great), and she is still a believer. She has the weight of the world on her shoulders. Going to the KH must be very hard - it is on any JW whose spouse is inactive. Being extra kind, helping her out, ask her what she would like to do, and take a walk together every day.

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out for a long time

by Sledracer in

my husband and i have been out for a long time, maybe fifteen years, i must say we are in a bit of a nowhere land spiritually, we find it impossible to attend any other church.

we really resent so much of how they messed up our and our children's lives.

we can't get back all those 25 years we were in.

talesin

Hi, Sledracer, and welcome.

It's true that it can be harder to make friends when we didn't go to school and share the young family life. Do the two of you work together? There's a lot of healing to be done, for the family, and for you. Have you been able to talk to anyone before this, or have you been all alone? There are things you can do to help, and first off, taking care of yourself - do you have a United Unitarian Church in your community? I'm not religious, but know they are kind communities, and define the term 'ecumenical'.

I used to love sledding when I was young. : )

Oh, and what Mrs. Flipper said - volunteering is one of the best ways to connect with people in your community And it will be something you enjoy. xx

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Coming to terms with the Watchtower experience

by Lee Elder in

it is a challenge coming to terms with your experience as a jehovah's witness.

if you were born and raised as a jw, and your parents were true believers, the impact on your life is profound, lasting, and largely negative.

in some cases quite abusive emotionally, spiritually, financially, educationally and yes, even sexually.. i recently watched "trumbo", and was quite moved by dalton trumbo's speech to the screen writers guild in 1970. here is an excerpt that i think is quite relevant to this topic:.

talesin

A child of physical abuse is a victim. He/she grows up to be an abuser and is now a victim/victimizer. He/she was a victim of circumstance and will always be considered a victim of sorts when discussing what happened to him/her as a child and as a result of that becomes the thing he/she hated most, abusive. Some people that were abused physically don't repeat the cycle but many do, thus they are still a victim by virtue of the horrid way they were brought up and now a victimizer by repeating the abusive behavior.

Welcome, faithnomore!

I was thinking the same thing, but let's take it a little further.

Does the abuser get off? "Oh, the poor thing is a victim of his/her upbringing." No. It is not tolerated by society, and against the law. Especially the willful, repeat abuser.

I think the 'victim' stance is on a continuum and individual level - certainly the GB and other high-ups (and some folk at all levels) know exactly what they are doing.

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Anyone eat bunnies on Easter????

by James Mixon in

we eat turkey on thanksgiving why not rabbits on easter???

what's your traditional meal.

for easter??