Posts by talesin

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Michael Brown verdict discussion policy

by Simon in

it's likely that the grand jury verdict on the michael brown incident will be released in the coming days or weeks.. i've no doubt many people are going to feel strongly about things whatever the verdict is.. whatever the outcome though, here's what's not going to happen:.

we're not going to put up with inflamatory language and comments designed to rile others up.

be respectful.. we will not allow accusations of racism simply because some have a view of the verdict that contradicts others.. there will not be invented evidence or claims being repeated - if it's been falsely reported or debunked then it's off limits.. it's not going to be an opportunity for people to air past gripes over past discussions.. if you feel that you cannot discuss the subject in a rational way then it may be better to simply avoid any topics on the matter.. please try to be objective and respectful if you do decide to comment and not keen to take offense.

talesin

DOC said,

Canada must have a higher caliber of municipal law enforcement recruitment than we do here.

Hay-yull, no!

Two years at the community college and presto! You are hired by the local PD. lol, cops have the best pot, that's been the expression I've heard all my life. And yeah, the local bootlegger (Pearl) when I was a young'un, a nice old granny on a country road, used to pay off the local RCMP detachment in trade (booze).

Sheriffs require a certificate, my sibling is one. That alone, is a scary thought. He is a bully, and like pedos, they tend to go to professions where they can practice their victimization.

tal

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Jehovahs Witnesses costs/benefits analysis

by What is Truth? in

jehovahs witnesses costs/benefits analysis .

motivated by the 9/15/14 watchtower studied nov 16th.

i chose to take up their odd challenge, on paragraph 16 which is among many suggestions in this article that would bring up questions if followed through by any thinking person.. how do you feel about being a christian?

talesin

Cost: Living a life of deluded fantasy, not being permitted to make choices for one's self.

Benefit: Living a life of deluded fantasy, not being required to make choices/decisions for one's self.

It depends on what you want out of life. :)

tal

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just wanted to introduce myself

by TheMark in

jw
friends

i've been a lurker for quite some time and enjoy the forum.

i've reached a point in life where i don't argue ideologies anymore so i don't have much to say.

i've been out for decades and believe i've been mostly de-cultabilized (if that's even a word).. my family is still in and i haven't had contact with them in years.

talesin

Welcome, TheMark. Great handle. ;)

t

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Millions now Living Will Never Die

by skin in

this is the title of a watchtower book published 95 years ago in 1920 by j f rutherford.

it still gets an occasional mention at meetings about how it was a turning point in the history of the watchtower.

but how many witnessess today can answer this question.who are these millions of people alive in 1920 that would never die?

talesin

omg, the last 2 comments had me laughing hard! LOL

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Why do "Apostates/exjws" always go into "Watchtower-bashing" when you show them inconsistencies in the Bible?

by booker-t in

i have noticed with "apostates/exjws" they always resort to "watchtower-bashing" whenever you show them inconsistencies of the bible.

we could be talking about contradictions, such as where did cain get his wife if adam,eve, abel, and cain were the only ones on earth?

the usual answer when they cannot answer will be "well the wt gave false prophecies in 1975".

talesin

Hi, booker-t. It seems to me, that for many ex-JWs, especially those who swallowed the Lie as adults, everything is about the WT. They can't have a discussion about religion or the Bible, unless it involves the WT and bashing.

That's normal. They are angry, and unable to let it go. Still reeling from having their lives stolen, feeling stupid for having believed the now-obvious lies of the WTS. Hurt, embarrassment, anger - it's hard to 'see' anything else, in this moment.

xx

tal

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new neighbors

by Theredeemer in

jw
friends

so, my wife and i purchased a house about a month ago and recently we met our new neighbors.

they are an older couple.

they are very nice and even brought us cookies.. in conversation they brought up that they were mormons and mentioned how much they loved it.

talesin

Hi. From my life experience, I would say "recruitment dinner". They identified as Mormons on first contact. Now, they learned you are a 'fallen' JW - this is when the new fundamentalist friend will jump to SAVE you! I've had it happen more than once.

Since these people are your physical neighbours, I will quote my father "good fences make good neighours". The invitation has been accepted. By all means, attend and enjoy. As another poster said, they are like the JWs, and most likely very pleasant folk. Let them pitch their religious talk, but like most non-religious people, don't take the bait.

Be casual in your non-belief, as if it is normal. IT IS! :D Leave with a smile, after you have, by your lack of interest in reilgious discussion, dispelled any fantasies they have about converting or saving you.

If you feel you must reciprocate the dinner invitation as a neighbourly gesture, do so. Once. Then, remain as that 'friendly family next door' who never really has the time to socialize. Once they realize you are not interested in Religion and God, they will most likely stay to themselves anyhow.

Luck!

tal

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New requirement to become an Elder or Ministerial Servant!

by hardtobeme in

jw
friends

it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.

he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.

if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".

talesin

dozy - mentally-challenged going in field service? I had never thought of that ... just another reason to hate the bOrg.

tal

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Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?

by cha ching in

to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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talesin

their shunning of me is their way to hide from what happened in that house. While I believe that the religion provided the right environment that nurtured my parents' abusiveness decades ago, what happened in that house had nothing to do with religion and everything to do with what two adults decided to do to their children. Yet, they don't have to answer for it because they shun me. Good thread topic.

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GMA Sara Haines marrying a gay sympathizer? -- please alert Anthony Morris (GB)

by FatFreek 2005 in

good morning america this morning featured their co-anchor sara haines and her husband-to-be (next weekend?

), roasting them and just having a good time.

however, and i don't know how to put this, he was wearing those anthony morris (governing body) no-nos -- leg hugging trousers.

talesin

Well, I just thought hmmmm .......

Prince, though more modestly dressed than in the 80s, still wears 'skinny leg' pants.

(Just how embarrassing is it for JWs when confronted with the "Thieves in the Temple" video, and Prince's ass-less chaps sans undergarments?)

t

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I Waited Until My Wedding Night To Lose My Virginity And I Wish I Hadn't...

by Divergent in

i found this article interesting & just wanted to share.

after going through my teenage years trying to be the perfect jw, i realized that trying to live up to the standards imposed on me have been for worse & not for better.

i was feeling miserable, repressed, unfulfilled, with a great lack of self confidence & self esteem.

talesin

lambsbottom, your apology is negated by the comments that follow it.

It's unfortunate that you feel the need to belittle others' feelings in order to express your own pain. Instead of making snarky and insincere comments, you may find it more constructive to examine why you have such a strong and negative reaction to this subject.

Oh, and if you were truly sensitive to the thousands who are dying of starvation, you would *not* use the term "First world" - it is denigrating to the so-called "Third world countries", and is sooo 80s. ;)

tal