Posts by talesin

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

I'm a student of psychology as well, through 15 years of therapy! ahaha, but I will say that my last 2 therapists said I could hang out my own shingle and do quite well.

So, as to the OP, and interesting comments since~! It's hard to stimulate discussion on a philosophical issue here, because exJWs tend to see the world in black and white. Thus, my comment, Philosophy 101, begin! I can't really contribute to that discussion (been there, done that).

Now, I must wonder why a student of psychology would start such an OP. Two guesses ..... (1) writing a paper and looking for fodder for said paper, and (2) stirring the pot.

Whichever ... or any other reason .. matters not. The question is, have you presented an OP that even begs a question or discussion? Perhaps more clarification is required? Or perhaps you are just lazily starting something up so that you can play word games with people. *grins*

carry on

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Why would anyone want to join jovie world?

by Doltologist in

i can understand why someone who was born of jovie parents would want to leave jovie world.

i can see why someone who had joined jovie world would want to leave.

after all, why would you want to stay in such an evil institution?.

talesin

To the OP, I don't get it, either~! Which is why I don't have any contact with them. Zip, nil, nada!

And, haha, jovie world, gotta like that one, I will have to tell my roomie! I call them JoHo's, which I have EARNED the RIGHT to call them whatever I please, and so have you.

xx

tal :sunglasses:

*Ex-JoHo, and born in Jovie World class

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

Well, that clarifies the OP's intent ....... refer to my first answer. Philosophy 101, begin!

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Anybody have any experience with this?

by stillin in

an elderly sister passed away recently.

family came to her memorial service from all over the country.

some of them, including grown-up, disfellowshipped children of hers, also came.

talesin

It's very strange that they *want* us (DF people) to come to funerals...OOPS! "memorial services" (for the 'witness', of course), but my family will dis-invite me to weddings. Oh, yes, so-and-so is getting married, but of course you can't come. Quite frankly, they want us to share their pain, but not their joy.

Let's analyze it. So, I go to the funeral home for my grampy's visitation, and my aunt rushes up and hugs me (after 15 years of shunning) "Oh, we miss you so much!"

Me, stiff as a bloody board, and not returning the faux hug. "This is grampy's funeral. And if you miss me, well, my number is in the book."

For moi, it's not worth it. I would rather grieve alone than deal with the lying, emotional vampires that are JWS.

xo

tal :sunglasses:

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

I was speaking philosophically, but......... after I wrote that, got to thinking about zenophobia and isolationism.

An airliner went down a few miles from here. It was carrying about 300 people, valuable art, and cash. It was an huge news story ... HUGE ... that went on for months, and years, to be honest.

Yet, 30,000 people die in India, and we get one story.

So, looking at the OP in more practical terms, I guess we can be quite egocentric. And easily led (by our parents, religions, media, corporations, etc.)

:sunglasses:

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Death in the minds eye

by Mr.logic in

lets say in another country someone died.

you never knew or heard of him, or her....... .people die every day.they exist, but with no personal contact, no media, they never existed to you.

so, are they dead.

talesin

If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

What if life is a dream, and our dreams are the reality?

:sunglasses:

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In your opinion: What would a teacher of the English language say about the way Anthony Morris III speaks?

by LogCon in

considering the language, wording and grammar of anthony morris iii, if a teacher on the english language, at a prestigious university were to analyze anthony's public speaking, what comments and conclusions would they come to?

i say public speaking, because i would assume that an individual would be more careful with their words when spoken in public, than in private.

serious comments would be appreciated, however, i realize that outlaw and a few others are probably on a page of their own.. .

talesin

So much for the serious analysis, LogCon. I've not heard any of the current GB, but remember Franz as fiery, screaming like Hilter, actually - and I guess some would call him charismatic. Knorr was more like your average JW speaker, giving a 'Public Talk'. He had the calm arrogance of those who inherited their money and feel entitled, whilst having neither the brains nor the personality to earn it honestly.

t :sunglasses:

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How many of you think.......

by punkofnice in

..that the governing body are only in it for money and power?.

how many of you think the gb are all/some are sincere?.

okay, i know this has been asked before but i can't find the thread and there are newbies here.....and i like the sound of my own voice.

talesin

I watched a documentary this week. It was about psychopaths (or, my preferred term "sociopaths").

Scientists figure that about 1 - 2% of our society are sociopaths - that number is double in high-level corporate circles, which is no surprise, as the culture admires "ruthless" business people - after all, they are *successful*, RIGHT?

Perhaps these people, who administrate a large corporation, are sociopaths. They feel NO remorse, they have no concept of EMPATHY, and they are not worthy of our time wasted in discussing them. As well, I feel that they are tools of, for lack of a better term, 'the man behind the curtain'.............

As Oubliette would say, "Let's repeat, IT'S A CULT!"

xo

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James Penton

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

jw
friends

james penton is he still alive?

my wife left me his book but i've not found anything else on him.

does he post somewhere?.

talesin

I haven't seen him post on Facebook in a while, though I've not been on much myself.

Thanks, Van, for the update.

Blessings and much love sent to Dr. Penton. He is an honest man, and was the only source for me when I left the JWS, before WWW and the internet. I say "honest" because his father was a 'higher'up' in the b'Org, and he had the courage, way back then, to go against a 3/4th gen family. I respect the hell out of him.

xo

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My Parents Lost Forever?

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

jw
friends

my father served in the second world war.

he served in the south pacific.

he loved his time in the military and my mother was more than supporting.

talesin

May I suggest that you turn off the TV and if you're on Facebook, turn to your nature groups! It's D-Day and there is a lot of stories that are triggering you.

I *do* believe that, and have been missing my Aunt SO MUCH the past couple of weeks, for a personal reason, but you know what?

She is in my heart - she is encouraging me, and saying "I will be with you". Also, I choose to celebrate the fact that I was always good to her, and she to me. I celebrate her strength, and draw on it some days.

It's okay, you'll figure it out. (HUGS)

xo