Jomavrick

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  What do apostates really want?

  by Mr Facts in

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  i'm just wondering what the whole apostate propaganda is all about?.

  do you think you can do some sort of justice to the wt for the pains they have caused you?, what actualy are your motives?.

  i dont get it.

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  Jomavrick

  You use the word faith - but it actually means stupidity. That is why people like you "want to believe" in the new order - you cant function in real life. Thinking and taking care of yourself is just too much, you need someone else "God" the "Society" the "Elders" to figure it out and tell you what to think. Seriously, why not just crawl in a cave and wait for your deliverance. It's like your buying a house and not supposed to worry about if the foundation is screwed up the roof if faulty, the electrical is outdated, the walls have mold. No go ahead and have faith because someone "told you" it was a good investment.

  I dont beleive in giving unquestioned loyalty to anyone or anything - without using my god given intellect. But go ahead and see how that turns out for you.

  Let the rest of us normal people live the real life in peace. And quit knocking on my door, it's annoying.
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  What do apostates really want?

  by Mr Facts in

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  i'm just wondering what the whole apostate propaganda is all about?.

  do you think you can do some sort of justice to the wt for the pains they have caused you?, what actualy are your motives?.

  i dont get it.

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  Jomavrick

  Mr. Facts - Message of hope? Hope of what? You litterally have no conception of what you are hoping for beyond some fuzzy foggy, illogical "idea" of an idealistic world occupied by robots with no ability to think on thier own. A "world" devoid of any real humanity. No Pain, no suffering, no sickness, no death, happy animals frolicking on the countryside with lobotimized witness frieks. Sounds like an episode of twilight zone. So articulate, who is going to be working to feed everyone, cloth everyone, who is going to be running the factories to make cars, refine the oil, fly the planes (oh or are you going to walk everywhere in Sandals?) Who will manage the communications systems - or will you be using pigeons? What happens when people start sinning by sleeping with thier neighbors wife cause that wife you were married to in the old system that you cant stand is no more attractive than she was then. Wont happen? Check your bible, perfect people sin. What happens when that lazy person who never worked in the old system doesnt want to work in the new system. What happens when everyone wants to live near the ocean? What happens with ambition, vision, creativity. What happens when someone actually has a different idea and disagree's with the "New Government". God just going to start striking people dead again? Wow, I will take this world with all of its problems and imperfections over your "new fantasy system", at least I am alive and can think and have freedom. Life is wonderful my friend, you might try real life sometime and quit hoping for fantasy island,,,,,,
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  What do apostates really want?

  by Mr Facts in

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  i'm just wondering what the whole apostate propaganda is all about?.

  do you think you can do some sort of justice to the wt for the pains they have caused you?, what actualy are your motives?.

  i dont get it.

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  Jomavrick

  I think it Varies. I think many want what the Religion stole from them. A normal life, choices that they cant get back, wasted time they cant get back. Destroyed family relationships, destroyed economic situationThere is a lot of pain and hurt inflicted by the Religion that does not just go away.

  What do you propose as a proponent of the Religion? Your use of the word "Apostate" is intereresting - I will wager you cant intelligently articulate what that actually means,,,, These people are not "Apostates", they are people who God loves, who mean well, who do well, who truly care about other people, unlike the many inside the fishbowl.
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  What will happen if I get married in a church?

  by Jude Knorr in

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  Let me try it again with my settings changed on IE-9.

  You will get blessed by a minister, showered with Rose Petals and live happily ever after!!
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  What will happen if I get married in a church?

  by Jude Knorr in

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  YOU ARE ALL DEMONIZED

  by Badfish in

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  you are all demonized apostates don't you know this, this is exactly what the slave was warning us about not to take apostate tracts and listen to apostates now you're all doing the same thing you were warned against and now you've corruspted my mind and made me mentally diseased and i hope jehovah destroys you all at armageddon!!!

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  Badfish,

  Thank you for the compliment. Apostate = Freethinking for ourselves. I think we are proud that you recognize that we are no longer programmed Robots. Oh and I don't beleive in Demons or Armaggedon - sorry!
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  I try hard not to judge others

  by Found Sheep in

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  since leaving the jw life.

  i see people for there good, even if it is hard to find.

  sure people get under my skin at times.

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  That's a nice story about how we can change. I agree that I used to look at people differently too as a JW. Thinking that your neighbors and the people at the grocery store and in the parking lot and the office, are all going to die and get eaten by carrion birds, effects your compassion button. It makes you feel like you are somehow superior to them - even though you are not.

  I love that breaking free from that mindset gives people like you a real sense of humanity and caring for others - even though you dont know them! It is kind of like the expression - by the grace of God go I,,,, Except now it really seems to be real. All of us in this life can go from the heights of success and crash to a desperate condition - dont ever think it cant happen to you.

  Bless you for sharing your story and caring, we need a few more billion people just like you on this earth!!
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  Anyone out there living in the upper Midwest (USA)?

  by Sic Semper Tyrannis in

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  i'm in mn..

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  I am in Nebraska,,,,
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  I was just mean to hubby....

  by PaintedToeNail in

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  i gave him are really good thriller book to read today.

  he got half way through it, was really into it, when i couldn't help myself.

  i asked him, in light of this past sunday's watchtower, how can you read this book in good conscience.

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  Jomavrick

  It's amazing the twists and turns these topics take - this crowd is slightly jaded and so much fun!
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  Who Do You Say Will Be The Republican Nominee For President & Will Obama Lose?

  by minimus in

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  your opinion please:.

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  Jomavrick

  All the more reason for us in the middle class to get off our backsides, organize, dispense, educate, influence the uneducated masses, that what is best for all is a vibrant economy. It all starts with money folks. Europe is next to the brink because socialism has spent more on entitlements that what it has. This country has been doing the same thing. We need someone to switch the train track. At this point I don't care who it is, just send Obama back to Hawaii or Chicago or Moscow,,,,