some of us have been out awhile, some of us may have just left, some of us still on the fence.. how do you feel towards the jw's and the organization right now, july 18, 2003.. compassion, hurt, hatred, anger, sorry, bitterness, helpless, robbed, cheated, or any other feeling you can think off.
which one describes your situation best ???????????.
all of us feel and handle situations with family differently, yet we are so much the same.. the day may come when family comes to you and says those dreaded words ........... " i can no longer have any association with you, not even on the telephone.".
I cant stand it, the more I look into it and see how controlling it is I stop to think how could anyone fall into this trap.
I do not mean to insult anyone by typing this but I allways felt that week minded people,followers,people with chemical imbalances in there brain are in the BIG LIE.
Tron
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i would like to ask a question,.
if you know someone who was raised in the so called truth yet never baptised,sexually molested his daughter got caught and his defence was he hit rock bottom and the pressures of the world had a part to do in his horrable crime.. do you think he should be able to plead guilty but is now studying the bible again with jw`s get off with a slap on the wrist.. now here is the kicker a few years later become an elder,would you remind the congregation elders of what he has done.. tron
I would like to ask a question,
If you know someone who was raised in the so called truth yet never baptised,sexually molested his daughter got caught and his defence was he hit rock bottom and the pressures of the world had a part to do in his horrable crime.
Do you think he should be able to plead guilty but is now studying the bible again with JW`s get off with a slap on the wrist.
Now here is the Kicker a few years later become an ELDER,would you remind the congregation elders of what he has done.
Tron
i have met and been taken advantage of by jw`s who preach there sooooo goood, and the world is so baaad.
well there are child molesters,theives,liars,ect in the big lie, just as there would be in the world,at least those in the world dont preach one thing and do another.
tron
I have met and been taken advantage of by JW`s who preach there Sooooo Goood, and the World is so Baaad.
well there are Child Molesters,theives,liars,ect in the BIG LIE, just as there would be in the World,at least those in the world dont preach one thing and do another.
Tron
so many of us, so many reasons we left or were kicked out.
from that point, how long did it take for you to not feel guilty about things and realize that the wts is not the "truth" as they always claim and that they have no say in whatever happens to us later.. for me, it was a slow fade.
not so much because i was determind to leave it; it was basically laziness in that regard.
It took me about a year of studing,i realized that there were to many inconsitincies in there teachings.There were also way to many fanatics,that had no intrest in answering logical questions.
So I say to them in a nice way,all religions are the same,and humans need to believe in something,but they all lead down the same road of hypocracy.
Tron
from another thread:where else does the media so vividly show females as equal .
when i read this, i had to wonder: is there something wrong with doing so?
portraying women as equals?
Well it all depends on the man or woman in question,
I could honestly say if you take a look at my mom who raised 3 kids in which one who was hearing impeared,she did a great job bieng divorced and having to fight for her alamony.and then you can take another woman who had less hardship to raise 1 kid and do a horrible job.Same applies for a man.
To get to the point is Yes women should be treated as equals to Men, Because there is no way a man can do what they can do we may have the physical strenght but they got the brains and then some so in my opinion they are probably much more superior to man in several ways.So they deserve to be treated as Equals.
Think of this Guy's would you be able to give child birth?
I think not they said that if men would have to bear children we would die from the pain.its sad to say but the only reason women have now stsrted to surpass pass men in professions is due to them being held back by men who were suffering from a supperiority complex.
Tron
i'm speaking not about yourself, but for the houeholder.
i would say for about the last 1.5 yrs before i left i didn't want to give a "good witness".
one because i didn't completly believe in it and two, i didn't want the householder to live the same misery i and most others were living.
Yeah well I remembered going out as a unbaptized pub,and went door to door never again,im a good judge of charictar and when you see the people open there doors on a Saturday morning still sleepy,they take the Magz cause they want you out of there....
Then I thougt to myself "hey man when you went out and partied every night how did you feel when one of these Crazy`s woke you up in morning?"I didnt like it especially when they put there foot in the door asking for a contribution.
I learnt very quickly that it a big scam and that all there teachings were one sided so i stayed away. still am there for my wife (strictly Assemblys where she needs help with the kids)but would wish one day she would leave.The society creates individuals who come to depend on the assosiations they make within the Org and sad to say its like an addiction far worse than Cocaine.
Tron
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i stumbled on to my wife km and started to read it,wow thers alot of crap in there huh,but there was one topic about your dress atire,i cant believe that some people could have a gang of freaks locked away in a building tell them what not to wear such as faddish or trendy fashion ,are jw's so mentally weak.
if there are any jw's here attending meetings wake up and smell the coffee your wasting your life.. tron.
True True Gary,
That goes to say what kind of Organization the Society really is a big buissness,trying to make money.I wonder where all that money goes anyways since they have there own printing Facilitys it must cost them that much and lots of things they do are done by donations and what ever cash they spend its a right off.
Tron.
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i stumbled on to my wife km and started to read it,wow thers alot of crap in there huh,but there was one topic about your dress atire,i cant believe that some people could have a gang of freaks locked away in a building tell them what not to wear such as faddish or trendy fashion ,are jw's so mentally weak.
if there are any jw's here attending meetings wake up and smell the coffee your wasting your life.. tron.
Hi gopher,
Reason why i think for someone to get DF is good,is your out free to choose your own path in life and if what ever freinds you may have had cant respect your decision well the hell with them they wernt friends then anyways.
Tron
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i stumbled on to my wife km and started to read it,wow thers alot of crap in there huh,but there was one topic about your dress atire,i cant believe that some people could have a gang of freaks locked away in a building tell them what not to wear such as faddish or trendy fashion ,are jw's so mentally weak.
if there are any jw's here attending meetings wake up and smell the coffee your wasting your life.. tron.
Hello everyone,
I stumbled on to my wife KM and started to read it,WoW thers alot of crap in there huh,but there was one topic about your dress atire,I cant believe that some people could have a gang of freaks locked away in a building tell them what not to wear such as Faddish or trendy fashion ,are JW's so mentally weak that they canot use there own minds to decide if they want to where a nice stylish outfit. where does it say that women should only where skirts and not nice dress pants you know the classy looking ones,I guess they must feel threatened by a woman taking controll of her own life. I told my wife that is she wants to wear pants she should, her reply was it wouldnt be approriate because it may not giva a good witness and she wouldnt want to be frowned upon.It really P.... me off to see that they have such a hold on individuals by using techniques of repromaning them or taking away privilage or DF(which i think is a really good thing)
If there are any JW's here attending meetings WAKE UP and smell the coffee your wasting your life.
Tron
with 5 meetings a week plus field service, and additional reading of the bible and watchtower literature, what did you learn after all these years in the jw organization?
did we need all those meetings and time and effort just to know some simple details?
in all these years i spent there, this is just about all i can say i learned there: .
Not a JW,
But studied and learned ,Its a crock of shit(excuse the expression).
1-Dont ask for logical explanations to what the society says just belive it.
2-Dont marry someone not in the so called truth because the bible says so.
3-Believe the interpretaion of the Bible by the society because they say so.
4-Who ever asked about the Dinousaures, what a time discrepencie there but they say carbon dating must be wrong and man and Dinosaur co existed PLEASE...I would think noah could of got one on the boat No? He He
5-Ahh I give up, theres just to mush garbage to type .How about this I cant stand the Society gang of controlling dictators. There No better than any other Religion.you go to there conventions and they tell you there in debt so fork out the cash with there boxes at every corner...Yeah right I dont need to hear about there so called financial situation there probably better off than alot of people.
Tron
