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  Special Talk

  by EmptyInside in

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  2. friends

  anyone listen to the "special" talk today?

  i guess it was given by one of the governing body members and shown at all the halls.

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  My wife listened - nothing fancy. Quote: 'same old stuff'. Did you expect anything new/interesting?
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  A spy's life is a lonely one

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i have been awake since about this time in 2013, so about 5 years.

  and the craziest thing about it is that now, no one, and i mean no one know's i am an apostate.

  meaning, that i don't believe the jw minds set/beliefs at all, and no one knows it.

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  #metoo

  Honestly, I don't even remember exactly when I started having serious doubts about the BORG - was quite surprised when looked at my registration date here. Lots of things happened since then.

  As for now, I don't see the reasonable way out of the BORG for myself. Surely, no real preaching in order not to accidentally invite someone to join JWs - but actually, it's pretty easy these days: there are so little people who ever could be attracted to the current crap in JW literature. The only thing that can make someone join JWs, I think, is some kind of emotional attraction (love bombing or smth of that sort).

  OP - don't worry about your current status - do what's best for you and your family in the way you understand it.
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  Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.

  interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..

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  OrphanCrow - I'm sorry if I got you wrong, but the way you express yourself is very much like hundreds of pro-Russian trolls on the Web. And I was surprised to see such a thing happening even on the ex-jw board.

  Not sure where you've seen people here believing JWs are the center of the Universe or where you noticed any 'ethnocentrism' (BTW first time I meet this word in my life) on my part. My only idea regarding this thread's topic is that by no means things happening to JWs in Russia now are the victory for the Justice. I don't claim anyone's right to believe those things are fair, but I personally am familiar with the developments on anti-JW campaign in Russia since 1990s, and am sure it's as far from pursuing any kind of justice and people protections as ISIS or North Korea from protecting human rights.
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  Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.

  interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..

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  I have an impression like listening to some Russian TV political show when reading OrphanCrow posts in this topic: 'evil Western world' attacking 'fair and nice Russia' - hmm, sounds way too familiar... Nice piece of propaganda.
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  Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.

  interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..

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  OrphanCrow - I'm not getting your point, honestly. I didn't say Russia or any other country needed WT, but I really think that applauding crazy regimes in their attempts to oppress people is not the thing that can make our lives better. The same thing like, let's say, applauding ISIS for executing JW.
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  Russian Court authorizes seizure of outlawed sect children

  by cha ching in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nei6lvfl13q.

  interesting development in russia... according to this article on youtube, it appears that children that are subjected to being involved in banned social or religious groups can be removed from their parents..

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  You guys who support this next crazy move by the Russian government, just have no idea of how vile and evil it is at the moment. All the Watchtower crimes and misbehavior is less than 1% of what those guys do in terms of controlling people, spreading propaganda of crazy ideas, telling outright lies to the public, killing innocent, etc. etc.
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  What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

  by Ponyo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  .....the truth was not the truth... ?

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  For me, the biggest thing is the GB and their representatives (aka elders and higher) attitude to the R&F (their 'theocratic' instructions and the way they're applied). They're really doing more and more crazy stuff these last years.

  No apostate or 'worldly temptation' could do a better job in waking me up.
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  What can the leadership at Watchtower do to turn things around?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let's play devils advocate here.. put yourself in the governing body's shoes.

  they are well aware of all the issues they are facing.

  they know their numbers (they 'do the math' as they say in the us).

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  BTW, rebranding and forgetting old stuff is not smth. new.

  When I started 'Bible study' with JWs quite a while ago, they also told me that they've been 'a bit crazy' in the old days (blaming mostly individual rank-and-file) - but now they've sorted everything out, and everything is ok.

  They can try this trick again on a greater scale (i.e. introduce it as a 'New light') - just this time, with Google available, it won't be that easy.
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  A Faders Guide to Field Service

  by pronomono in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as a fader, i'm working on a mental guide to field service.

  because most of this is a mental exercise realizing that your new knowledge, the mental side of things, is what makes it so hard to preach after learning ttatt.

  what presentations have you used in field service as a fader to preach the good news without preaching jw propaganda?.

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  Just don't go anywhere and write false hours (antitheocratic warfare).

  You can go only if your wife or someone else insists too much. Choose the weirdest presentation from Kingdom Ministry (they are many) - that will do, I think
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  Evolution - What Darwin Never Knew

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aybrbcli4zu.

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  cofty,

  Could you, please, recommend some more (one or two) good scientific books about evolution (I am not banned by Google - I just want an advice)