Jon. Although I've never been a JW, I have to agree with Searcher. When I decided I no longer believed in the Catholic faith I didn't write a letter to my bishop or try to provoke the local priest to ban me, I just stopped going to church. You want to leave, you don't need anybody's permission to leave so just leave.
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Am I part of the Cure or am I part of the disease
by Jon Preston inso this is the ultimate dilemma.
my wife and i are on the same page.
do we fade, in which all our friends, and i stress friends call us and feel sick and hurt and hurt and we feel guilty; or do we da so we tell the wt what we see as wrong as what we see that lead us to believe its a false religion; or do we df and let me or my wife let them catch us at some wrong doing and stop going to meetigs..... .
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First trip to Europe this summer...only 20 years later than I planned :)
by Gypsy Sam inso, i'm quite excited but also slightly freaked out as i'm able to go this summer instead of next like i had counted on (my daughter graduates next year and i was planning to go then).
this means i'm doing this last minute and i wanted to see if any of you have used https://www.go-today.com or gateone travel or go ahead travel?.
i'm planning on london, paris and rome for two weeks, likely july at this point.
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bemused
As others have said, you'll get by with english, but knowing a few words of french and italian may make your trip more interesting. Tour companies and organised trips are good if you want to cram a lot in, but it can be tiring getting dragged around. The London/Paris/Rome No.1 must-sees for me would be Westminster Abbey/Eiffel Tower/St Peter's. The best show in London IMO is Billy Elliot (but I'd recommend you have a quick look at Margaret Thatcher/miner's strike on Wikepedia beforehand to understand the context). If you've got time to travel out of the cities then Oxford is lovely and an easy trip from London while Versailles is spectacular and only just on the edge of Paris.
Enjoy your trip!
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Is this true, the Pope said an Atheist can get into heaven??
by jam inwell if said that, one thing is for sure he wont remain a atheist.
if he is in heaven..lol.
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I'm sure it's true. This has been Catholic teaching for all of my lifetime at least (and that's quite a long time).
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Are all JWs united in their beliefs?
by enigma1863 inso i used to think that all witnesses believed the same exact thing but i have heard some claims that they believe things i'm not familiar with.
do you know if it's true?
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jgnat: 'For instance, I have met many Witnesses who assume they will see their (non-believing) relatives in paradise.'
Interesting. I (a never-in) was told by an elder that non-believers might be resurrected (if they'd been good). Is this not a universal JW belief?
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JW.Orgy......let's come up with slogans
by AndDontCallMeShirley inhere are a couple suggestions for slogans:.
missionary positions available".. 2.
where jesus isn't the only one coming for a second time".. .. add yours to the list.
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We promise to be faithful and discreet.
We do it with the (new) light on.
Enjoy the Rapture
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Remember this picture?
by Zoos ini went to a small non-denominational church yesterday - first time in a church since i left the borg 4 years ago - and this is how i observed several of the members singing.. .
boy... do those people love to sing.. .
i try not to judge the sincerity of others but i was a little put off by the experience because it looked fake, showy display-ish.
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Although, to be fair, the quality of the hymns is dire to start with.
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Remember this picture?
by Zoos ini went to a small non-denominational church yesterday - first time in a church since i left the borg 4 years ago - and this is how i observed several of the members singing.. .
boy... do those people love to sing.. .
i try not to judge the sincerity of others but i was a little put off by the experience because it looked fake, showy display-ish.
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In my (admittedly limited) experience, the quality of singing in KHs is very poor - much worse than in most christian churches.
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July 2014 WT cracks down on apostate debates and 'dance parties'
by EndofMysteries inin the july 2014 study wt article titled "jehovah's people "renouce unrighteousness".
par 9 and 10 .
9. how did foolish and ignorant debates affect the early christian congregation?.
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Hmm, could be some sparsely populated dance floors at JW weddings in future. Perhaps guests will have to limit themselves to say two dances?
BTW - what is a 'dance party'?
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The Year 4014
by snowbird ini will turn 61 years old this coming november.. i will turn 2,061 years old in november of 4014.. http://www.worldtimeserver.com/calendar.aspx?y=4014.
according to ecclesiastes 3:11, the concept of eternity is part of our makeup.. it's mind-boggling to think about it.. sylvia.
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Hmmm. I see my birthday falls on a weekend in 4014. Perhaps I should organize a BBQ?
Snowbird - it is mind-boggling. And what about 44,014 or 44,444,014? Multiply that last number by a trillion trillion and thats still not eternity. I suspect we'll be bored by then.
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Books!
by dynamiterose77 ini feel like i wasn't allowed to read a lot of books when i was younger, a lot of which i'm discovering are positivly phenomenal.. i was allowed to read edgar allan poe, who remains my all time favorite writer.
but, i've discovered the joys of stephen king, anne rice, joyce carrol oats, neil gaiman, george r. martin, david sedaris... and so so so many more.. i'm currently getting through "the shining" so i can move on to "doctor sleep".
i'm interested to see if anyone else that discovered the many joys of "worldly" literature, jumped immediately into what they weren't allowed to read... and what was your favorite?.
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Some of my favourite books:
Midnight's Children by Salman Rushdie
To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Cloud Atlas by David Mitchell
The Pickwick Papers by Charles Dickens
Have fun!