johnny and i go back all the way to childhood.
we met in elementary school all those years ago.
he was a chubby, one-eyed kid with freckles and a coat that didn't fit him and i was a tall and vanishingly thin introvert who wore dress pants instead of blue jeans.
Terry I know I've said it before but I love reading your posts, that was fantastic reasoning...I have always found the blood issue a mute point as most don't understand what they can or can't use and don't bother to check until a surgery looms.
I have found most say they will not accept anything and as surgery nears they pour over the latest info on what is acceptable.....not to them but to the GB.
Thanks for sharing the conversation and the history that surrounds it and your friend.
looking through some of the society's earlier wt's, it does seems as though they tend to see apostates as lonely and isolated people.
i can only find one reference to organised apostates in the wt.. so i wonder how they feel about the recent plethora of fests that are taking place?.
it's certainly having a nullifying effect on the enforced isolation that they like to see resulting from disfellowshipping.
blondis is asking for help.
where does it state that if a jw celebrates a brithday that it is a disfellowshipping offense.
i have searched and searched.
*** g87 9/8 9 Future Prospects for Protestantism-And for You ! *** “On Judgment Day, God will certainly not ask us: Have you celebrated impressive Reformation festivals, but rather: Have you listened to my Word and kept it?” This agrees with what Jesus said: “My brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.”—Luke
I suppose he won't ask if we celebrated birthdays either!
kate is the heart and soul of my life.
she and i talk about sooooo many things, and she puts up with so much of my lunacy.
together, we've picked up the shards of our exjw life and are rebuilding, rethinking, and planning for the future.. it will take time, but it feels so damn good to be on a reconstructive path.. it can be done.. craig (of the "very very thankful" class)
Congrats Craig.
You and Kate give us hope both through your caring deeds for others and the great love you have found with each other.
blondis is asking for help.
where does it state that if a jw celebrates a brithday that it is a disfellowshipping offense.
i have searched and searched.
Glad your looking Blondie...I have asked another adept researcher if he has ever come across the original words used to condemn birthday's, seeing as it had been very popular...should be in the literature of the late twenties...
I'm thinking originally it was probably condemned as creature worship
hey, all of you who are in florida, please, are you okay?
let us know, cuz i know that everyone must be really worried about you, as i am!!!.
terri
Terri...is this a remark about Mav's latest thread
I didn't realize we had sooo many down there on the big peninsula !
Glad everyone is ok...TV coverage was incredible!
some of you may remember my post about sending a couple of jw's away to research 1914 (they are calling on me and do not know that i am a fade-away).
they sort of did do some research (from the wts publications, even after i specifically asked that they look into publications outside theirs).
they came back and we did have a discussion.
Cool stuff Duckie
It's annnoying that they'll sit and discuss it with you thinking you are a possible convert but if you were a dub with doubts they would dismiss your thoughts and reasoning as apostate.
Same thoughts, same arguments, just a different view of the presenter...that may happen yet if you seem to well informed or if they think you have found info on the net....beware the voice of strangers and all.
...perhaps even a cliche come true.
or do you see me as bromidic and bright as a moon-happy night pouring light on the dew?
you see, i'm as corny as kansas in august, and i'm as normal as blueberry pie.
Wowsers..what great news..two fantastic people saying I love you to hundreds of friends and strangers...hmmm.
Sixer you seemed like such a quiet guy to be shouting from the rooftops...guess it must be love.
Jeepers Frenchy don't post anymore of those steamy clips...I was talking to Gumby when he saw that and poor old guy ripped his mouse clean out of the computer trying to hit the pause button..kept muttering about his floppy drive?
Sixer...You do realize that the french will call you an Artiste instead of a photographer...and don't be expecting to kiss me on both cheeks because of your new french customs...one cheek was fine before so you'll have to live with that.
yes sir e folks....., that's what the faithful and discreet slave has said........the protestants are sluttier than the catholics and are more reprehensible because they have more knowledge about false doctrine and the bible than the catholics, and still they whore with the political beast and commercial elements!.
also notice the subtle way they talk about pat robertson of the u.s. to show as proof protesantism is more reprehensible because she whores with the beast.
( bold type and red letters mine).
Reading that Gumby reminded me of Rutherford and his hatred for religions. Right from The Finished Mystery up until some of the last books he wrote which included Salvation it was a constant theme.
Thank Gawd he never met you and found out what real whore was
1. isn't the power of prayer just a myth?
if a child asks a parent for help in an emergency and the parent does not respond we'd call it child-abuse.
if a friend asks a friend for help and they were immobile and silent we'd call that betrayal.
I agree with Stinky
but I don't think the 'power' comes from some supernatural being. I think if a person thinks good thoughts or tends to be happy or they have a strong belief system, they can be healthier.
Brenda some of your words sound similar to what Dr.Wayne Dyer espouses...have you read his material on the power of Intention...he has some great ideas but I back off when he gets to spiritual for me...your comment on the Universal Energy (God) sounds similar to his beliefs...nothing wrong with that I was just noting the similarity.
Kes152.....I admire your conviction but must say no loving father would act in such a calous way as you described...Explain that to the more than 200 million children who have died in the last 20 years from malnutrition and disease, most of them under the age of 5.
I know it's an argument which has no satisfactory answer for most of us and has been debated many times. It requires faith just like the faith which is needed for prayers to make a difference....faith I don't have.
