Posts by scoobydont

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It is official they're selling off Kingdom Halls in Britain

by raymond frantz in

i posted here a week ago some disturbing news for congregations being consolidated in britain.

my goodness that was nothing !

a letter was read today from bethel addressed to all congregations in britain that can only be described as the biggest news for years.the main points:.

scoobydont

Something to share with a hardcore JW pal of mine who holds out hope that I will return someday to the Borg. God forbids !

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AD1914.com Website has about 300 Pix from Rutherford's FBI File for 1917 and 1918

by Gilgamesh in

barbara anderson had a great idea for the ad1914.com website that launched on october 1st (2014).

it's still getting a lot of attention even though it was especially launched to make a splash for october 1 & 2. i'm currently one of the admin/editors and i have a lot more respect now for everyone who runs a website.. the purpose of the site is to continue to focus attention on the 1914 doctrine and related doctrines.

to keep getting attention there is now a facebook page and a twitter account where new updated articles are mentioned.. i don't think anyone behind the site thinks that 1914 is such an important issue when there are real issues such as "high-control," blood & medical coercion, lifestyle coercion, hypocrisy/honesty issues, child abuse, 'persons having no natural affection,' shunning, etc, and the religion has therefore become a hotbed of psychological and emotional turmoil.. but 1914 is still one of those "weak links" in the chain that has exposed the so-called "faithful and discreet slave" as dishonest, unfaithful, unwise, indiscreet, and ever unable to serve spiritual food at the proper time.. ultimately, the goal of the site will be, not to compete with other sites that have done such a great job of exposing the watch tower doctrines and practices.

scoobydont

Marked !

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Rutherford's last book "Children" 1941- Advice DONT HAVE KIDS...Where it all started!

by Witness 007 in

watchtower 1941 sept. 15 p.283, 288 "in front of the convention platform the children recieving there free gift (copy) not as a play thing but as the lords instrument for the work in the remaining months before armagedon..." so what lovely message did the kids get from judge rutherford?

children 1941page 281 "no children were taken onto noah's ark...it is proper to wait until after armagedon to have children...its only afew more years till armagedon..." the book concluded.

"(john and his girlfriend talk) ...armagedon is surely near our hope is within afew years our marriage will be consumated and we will have sweet children...we will defer marriage and pioneer ...we will not see each other for a time.." thats why i dont have kids it all started with this fools book!.

scoobydont

@ Gregor : "My mother was there and received her book from the judge"

Hi Gregor, did you mean to be really funny with that ?! You cracked me up with than one, man...still in sticthes !

Your mum, the "apostate" ! Shame, some JWs weren't that smart or brave. Care to tell us what your mum really thought of Rutherford and his teachings just before she decided to have her first kid ?

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Awake January 2015: How did life begin? - More misquotes

by Designer Stubble in

[quote]some might assume that a scientifically-minded person would pick evolution and that a religious person would pick creation.

but not always.. rama singh, professor of biology at canadas mcmaster university, says: the opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population.[/quote].

end-of-quote in awake.

scoobydont

This is defintely one to follow !

Thanks to the poster.

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Jehovah's Witness Elder, Ron Felt suing Jehovah's Witness he disfellowshiped, for "Harassment"- Broadcasting a recording of JW Ron Felt......

by Balaamsass2 in

http://www.dover-express.co.uk/8203-ironic-isn-t-says-jehovah-s-witness-court/story-23631047-detail/story.html.

' says jehovah's witness in court for harassing another jehovah's witness.

by dover express | posted: october 27, 2014. by jamie rose exclusive [email protected].

scoobydont

Interesting that Elder Felt decided that the court, which is part of the Justice system, is best placed to address his grief about being "harassed", yet reports and allegations of sexual abuses within the borg, resulting in real grief for more than just the individual victim in a congregation, doesn't get heard beyond the walls of that congregation ! Just wondering why Elder Felt didn't decide to view O'Hare's action as "sin" and then go to "forgive" him ! Aaah, clearly, what's good for the goose isn't quite so good for the gander in JW-land.

Thank God for the internet...it saved my life !

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jw.org has an Armageddon countdown card on it. seriously.

by rebel8 in

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scoobydont

Hmmm ! No end to the manipulation of the sheeple ! Cue in false candour to soften the hardness of failed prophecies and I bet the dubs are lapping it up as another inspired "meat in due season" !

I used to feel pity towards the sheeple but I don't, anymore. They have a choice - they can smell the coffee and walk away from the organisation or they can choose to remain in there and slowly have the life sucked out of them !

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The Goal of ISIS is to turn the west against Islam and to the capititalise on the backlash that reults from that..

by smiddy in

while these idiots think beheading innocent aid workers journalists who have the welfare of the people at heart in these circumstances and then butchering them in such a barbaric manner is going to swing public opinion in their favour is beyond me .. if their is ever a reason to go on the ground including going into syria to rid this pox off the face of the earth this is the last straw and needs to be done now.. no more now pussyfooting around with barbaric medieval murderes , go in and annhillilate the bastards.

in the air on the ground and whatever it takes.. smiddy.

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scoobydont

@ bemused

"It could have unintended consequences - some Muslims might begin to question their whole religion."

If only that were true, the problem of ISIS and Muslim fundamentalism would be over in about a year from now. The reason this murder wouldn't change a thing in the Islamic world is simple. It is quite similar to the pretentious teaching by the JW that a bad JW is better than the nicest person outside the BORG - a concept I always struggled with while I was in. Following the same logic, most Muslims, including the "moderates" happen to believe that the worst Muslim is better than the best "infidel". This is what makes even the so-called moderate a dangerous element !

Some of these Jihadists from the West are known in their communities for who they are and what they represent and would eventually return to Europe and America. (Yes, even they cannot resist the lure of the West !) I would bet you £20 (yes, it's all I can afford) if you find them being turned in by their respective communities upon their return !

It is also for this reason that the war against ISIS will be lost. Once the heat is turned on them, they will break up and disappear into the surrounding communities where they would be protected from any Western-led investigation, by the very ones who had been crying out for Western help !

My take on this whole situation is simple. Don't get involved in ground battles...keep all support aerial and there would be no Western trophy for the Jihadists to parade and gloat over. You would think that after all these years of meddling in Arab affairs, the one thing that Western governments should have learned is that non-Muslims cannot bring peace to that part of the world ! Any intervention by a non-Muslim only serves to unite the warring factions for attacks against the West. It is alright for ISIS to rape and slaughter thousands of fellow Muslims but if a misguided Western bomb kills an innocent Muslim, you can picture the song and dance that would soon follow, ochestrated by the "do-gooders" from the West and rehashed across the Muslim world as motivational speech for recruiting Jihadists !

"On the other hand, most Christians I know just ignore the awkward bits of the bible and don't feel that the actions of the Ku Klux Klan, for example, have anything to do with their religion."

That is true as the KKK cannot find any verse in the Bible to support their evil practices which are purely doctrinal, and therein lies the big difference between Christianity and Islam. Islamic extremists often quote freely from the Quran to support their barbarism !

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The Goal of ISIS is to turn the west against Islam and to the capititalise on the backlash that reults from that..

by smiddy in

while these idiots think beheading innocent aid workers journalists who have the welfare of the people at heart in these circumstances and then butchering them in such a barbaric manner is going to swing public opinion in their favour is beyond me .. if their is ever a reason to go on the ground including going into syria to rid this pox off the face of the earth this is the last straw and needs to be done now.. no more now pussyfooting around with barbaric medieval murderes , go in and annhillilate the bastards.

in the air on the ground and whatever it takes.. smiddy.

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scoobydont

@quellycatface "I have my own thoughts on all of this but I won't put it on the forum..."

I think you should feel free to speak your mind as long as it's objective and logical.

Personally, I think Islam was spawned by the Devil himself and, like a nasty virus, it has been aided in its spread here, in the West, by the greed and non-chalance of Western leaders who have, through the years, preferred Arab dollars to the security of their own citizens. Think TROJAN HORSE !

I hate to say it, and I know it won't go down well with non-Christians on this forum, but the West, in its "sophistication" has turned its back on the very religion that supplied the values on which Western societies are built. Islam and its Jihadists seek to take the world back to the Stone Age ! In England, churches are being converted into flats and pubs. There is a palpable rejection of the Christian faith and you could even say, a growing contempt for Christianity !

Anyone would think that this contempt for religion extends to Islam, but, oh no , it doesn't. Is that from fear of Muslim reprisals or a numbing from an overdose of Arab oil and dollars? The muslims here have spotted this inconsistency and it is a situation that plays right into the hands of Islam and those Muslims who only accept to co-exist with "infidels" where Jihad has failed ! Christianity is steadily being edged out of the West. There is a vacuum arising from this trend and Islam is swiftly moving in to "fill" the void left by Christianity. Muslims are happy to buy Churches and convert them to centres for all sorts of Islamic activities. It is victory to them on many levels. This is the next best thing to an all-out Jihadi conquest of the West.

There is an old church, slap bang in the middle of Leicester City centre which now houses a mini cab office with a section dedicated as a place of worship for the Muslim drivers ! This is not Islamophobia. It is a simple fact that vacuum does not exist in nature or human culture and since the West has spurned what is arguably its own religion, Islam has been released to unleash its values on the West...capture the West and the rest of the world falls !

I am very concerned and, guess what, I am not even European ! Yet, it hurts me to my bone to see how the current wave of unsustainable ultra-liberal ideas have replaced common sense and the West has now left itself deeply vulnerable to those who seek to destroy it. The only way to stop the threat posed by this dangerous religion is a return to common sense. To all those would-be Jihadists and their sympathisers, if you don't like Western values, please pack up and relocate to Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, where you can live forever in paradise on Earth! Few things can be more tasking than fighting the enemy within !

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That does it ! I'm leaving ! ! !

by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

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leaving the university with my degree!.

exams are finished and it's just a matter of days before i walk.. i was certainly stressed about doing this.

i'm older than my classmates and armageddon was sooooo close!

scoobydont

Hey Billy ! Congratulations !! I've enjoyed reading your contributions here on JWN.

Glad you didn't leave the BORG to curl up and die as some have, sadly, done.

Now, don't you be like that naughty little boy who left the BORG and got himself a nice degree and then forgot to return to his mentor, the BORG, to say "thank you" for all the "inspiration and motivation" they provided you with !

Enjoy your new life, Captain Billy Bones !

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Interesting speech by Mohammad Ali

by LogCon in

many view sports figures as shallow and comical and, while it is true that mohammad ali did fit those descriptions many times, he also voiced, at times, a profound wisdom that rings true with many jw's and former jw's.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzp1xb41u40.

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scoobydont

Yup, that's a good one. Well done for digging it up ! I always felt there was more to Ali than the jester we had all come to like or dislike. I am in the first camp, by the way.

Shame about the religion he opted for. I know a lot of Black folk around the world who embraced Islam largely because they viewed it as a rejection of a fully functional part of the establishment that oppressed them rather than on the merits of Islam per se. What am I getting at? My point is that a vast number of African Americans once viewed Christianity as one of the vestiges of slavery, rather than a form of faith deserving of consideration simply on its own merits.

I am black and I think I understand how a lot of black folk think and feel about Christianity. Unfortunately, some of those misgivings about Christianity are rather misplaced, if you ask me. Many black folk seem to forget or are totally oblivious of the exploits of the Arabs in Africa and the religion that came with them.

People have to begin to see the world (earth) for what it really is - a gift to mankind and a test of how we can work together as one human race - a board of "trustees", to borrow Ali's word from that video clip. I have seen white folk hurt or kill blacks simply because of their colour and I have seen some white folk lay down their very lives to save black folk. Again, what am I saying? The world isn't simply "Black and White" as some people might think. It is on this basis, and this basis only, that I still find some pleasure in being human and being alive.

I have experienced racism first hand and continue to do so (unfortunately, that will never change...it's just the way the world works) Yet, I have received unquantifiable love and affection from white folk, enough to permanently alter any narrow stereotypes and I am glad about that ! I am also glad to be able to view religions on their merits and what they seek to achieve rather than where they originated from and whom they are largely associated with.

Hey, I have just had a pause and this writing is a million miles from the subject of this thread ! What a digression ! Some might even say it's a rant ! Well, that would be giving it too much credit ! Just some of those thoughts that float around in the head and scarcely get expressed. Pardon me, please.

Yes, thanks for sharing the video.