Kidding Me, as I understand it, the amount on the resolution only refers to donations for what was the old repayment of a loan arrangement. Our congregation was repaying a loan, so our resolution was exactly the same as that amount. Any other expenses incurred would still have to be met outside of that. Even in halls with no loan outstanding the resolution would only cover a contribution to worldwide building work but all local costs would still have to be extra, I think.
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The Masters of Spin--Local numbers from your Apostate Account Servant
by suavojr inytd average.
yearly contribution.
$ 2,625.85. donation resolution .
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Charles Taze Russell
by thedog1 ini think i read somewhere, here or maybe on another forum, that somebody claimed that c.t.
russell stood on the brooklyn bridge with some others, all in white robes, in 1878, waiting for the rapture.
any truth in that?.
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I think I read somewhere, here or maybe on another forum, that somebody claimed that C.T. Russell stood on the Brooklyn Bridge with some others, all in white robes, in 1878, waiting for the rapture. Any truth in that?
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New Hall Funding Arrangement
by thedog1 inwell our local needs part on this went very uneventfully.
the brother read it out in such a way that the main thrust was the new arrangement with only two donation boxes in the hall.
then, almost as an afterthought to the proposed resolution to send exactly what we used to send as the loan repayment, he casually mentioned that we would no longer be paying a loan.
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thedog1
Well our local needs part on this went very uneventfully. The brother read it out in such a way that the main thrust was the new arrangement with only two donation boxes in the hall. Then, almost as an afterthought to the proposed resolution to send exactly what we used to send as the loan repayment, he casually mentioned that we would no longer be paying a loan. I don't know if it really sank in, but he didn't ask for any questions from the audience and nobody seemed to be bothered.
The funny thing about this, if it wasn't so crazy overall, is that it will benefit our cong locally. We were going to be paying a loan off for a long time under the old arrangement, and I was thinking that, what if we can't repay the resolved amount, what are they going to do, take the hall back? If we hit hard times, then we don't make the resolved amount, and in a year's time we lower the resolved payment. What will benefit the org in resolutions from richer halls with paid up loans and big bucks in the bank, will actually, I think, take the pressure off struggling congs like ours. We are somewhere in Europe where people are not too well off, and many struggle for the basics.
Personally, I think the whole thing stinks, and I am a serving elder. I never thought I would see the day when all our financial decisions would be taken out of our hands locally. In the old days the congs were quite autonomous. The co visited twice a year and poked his nose in, and aftwerwards we went back to doing what we did locally. This was in my home country where I don't live anymore. But we had the feeling of controlling our own destiny. I heard not so long ago that my old cong had done a really expensive refurb, about 50 or 60 thousand euros worth, and I don't know if they had the cash for that (possibly) or if they are not in hock in perpetuity to the org. They were in a good place financially a few years ago but of course with the new changes they will have to suck it up and send in a resolved amount even if they are free and clear on the refurb.
How times change! I used to be quite idealistic about what we as JW's were doing for the good of ourselves and others. Now? Having read CoC and IN Search of Christian Freedom and all the stuff here, well...
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All appointed men are being told they have to pioneer now!
by stuckinarut2 inyes, you read correctly..... all appointed men have been told in a new letter that they have to pioneer to "set the lead" whenever there is a "special" campaign month.
they use some scripture saying that these ones have to show by example.... so for any of us who are appointed and have learned ttatt, it is going to be very hard to fade during this time!.
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Maybe a leaked letter not distributed worldwide yet?
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All appointed men are being told they have to pioneer now!
by stuckinarut2 inyes, you read correctly..... all appointed men have been told in a new letter that they have to pioneer to "set the lead" whenever there is a "special" campaign month.
they use some scripture saying that these ones have to show by example.... so for any of us who are appointed and have learned ttatt, it is going to be very hard to fade during this time!.
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Elders are often heavily encouraged to pioneer at these times but so far it has always been optional.
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All appointed men are being told they have to pioneer now!
by stuckinarut2 inyes, you read correctly..... all appointed men have been told in a new letter that they have to pioneer to "set the lead" whenever there is a "special" campaign month.
they use some scripture saying that these ones have to show by example.... so for any of us who are appointed and have learned ttatt, it is going to be very hard to fade during this time!.
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Haven't heard anything about this yet in our hall!
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BOE - PDF - CONFIDENTIAL 2014-04-22 Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants
by WatchTower87 inboe - confidential.
instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.
no virus ;-).
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The letter is real. I read it out at our meeting last night after I conducted the Watchtower study. Yes, the letter is short, but further details will apparently follow.
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How did you tell your spouse you want out of the JW religion?
by leaving_quietly inwhat did you imagine would happen?
did they react the way you expected?
how did you bring it up?.
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I agree that it is not the same for everybody. Even though I cannot agree with a lot of doctrine these days, I cannot cut the ties very easily. I have been a Witness for 34 years so it is a part of most of the things I have done in my life. My wife is still fully in though having some problems. At the moment I cannot envisage not being a part of the Witness side of things. Emotional, practical and social ties are very strong. So making the grand gesture in the cause of truth is not a simple thing. Hypocritical? Maybe. Realistic? Yes.
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Is it true that elders lurk the forums?
by make yourself init seems like it is one huge contradiction.
but are they doing it for the purpose to try to guess exactly who in the congregation is on ex jw sites?
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I'm only lurking to get to some truth. Not to catch anybody.
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I am DF'd now... Decisions, decisions...
by Comatose inso i was df'd a couple weeks ago.
i live in a place where i didn't really have new friends at the kh, so my day to day life isn't changing.
i'm just me living life like i was 2 weeks ago and 2 years ago.
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Hi, just like to mention that one of my extended family is DF'd and his mother wants to see the grandchildren. They have worked out something as she does not want to miss out on their lives even though their dad is dF'd. Other members of the family have a hands off relationship with him but they do not shun him. In the part of the world they live in the dictat for immediate family to take a hardline view on shunning is not taken so seriously. I am an elder and I have always thought that immediate family should have more leeway than others in the cong who would be expected to completely shun a df'd person. When I meet this df'd relative I always greet him and small talk with him. I would never completely shun him as it would go completely against the grain of normal immediate family relationships. How would it be if I shunned him and his fleshly sisters who are also witnesses talk to him and deal with him to some extent? I view this as normal Christian human kindness, so we all get along ok, even though we do not see him very often at all, and he knows we are a bit wary of him because he is df'd , but we treat him as a person, not a statistic!