Posts by Magneto

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The WTS Kills Another Child

by Robdar in

i spoke to my father this afternoon and received some bad news.

the daughter of a woman who was one of my childhood friends at the kh died today from leukemia.

she was 16 years old.

Having read quite enough of this thread, I have come once again to the conclusion that the Watchtower Society must be done away with. For the few weeks I have been on this forum I have heard the plight and the stories of you ex witnesses and non witnesses, and it has only deepened my desire to break the tyrranical bonds they hold over my girlfriend and her mother. It sickens me to the core to know that children are most often the victim of the Watchtower's ignoranance. To many times have the children been forced to bare the burden/sacrifice of Watchtower edicts. I call again to thos who would stand against the Watchtower with me and actively seek out any information that could lead to thier downfall. The key my friends is not to be afraid. You cannot simply get out, and get on with your lives. You must rally together and use whatever means necessary to topple the vicious animals who held you all in chains for so very long. Don't just escape them.....PUNISH THEM. Make them pay for that which they have done to you. Make them suffer as you have suffered. An eye for an eye, if you will. Let them see what they have done and then look to them and see if they still have the strength to hold fast to thier ideals. They are animals. And animals, once they are sick and depraved, must be PUT DOWN.

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The Incessant Drumbeat

by Room 215 in

my wife just got back from her meeting, left the latest kingdom ministry on the table for me to look at; alas it's another neurotic, unremitting helping of guilt-slathering and ``do more, do more, and then more.

'' reonounce all personal comforts and ambitions to the vital task of alerting your fellow humans to the ``fact" that unbeknownst to men, jesus stealthily assumed rightful rulership of the earth almost 90 years ago and will intervene here any time now.

and the 04/01/03 watchtower?

Magneto

I'm concerned myself, because my girlfriend is an un-baptised member of a JW congregation. I find any number of things wrong with thier teachings, and the contradictions of thier teaching -vs- thier business dealing through thier Watchtower Inc. business front, bad comedy at best. My concern is how best to expose her to this, she and her mother are the only JWs in her family, and I'm concerned for thier emotional and physical well beings, given that the rational mind can conclude that these peiople are up to no good in one sense or another.

If only I could just remind myself 30 years from now to send a Terminator back in time to wipe out the originators of this "religion". But then again we'd not be having this conversation would we? :)

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WTS Addresses Child Abuse - er, kind of...

by iiz2cool in

my wife, who is intent on re-activating herself as a dub since i da'd myself, went to the convention this past weekend.

she showed me this new publication entitled "learn from the great teacher", and placed great emphasis on these two pages i scanned and am posting.

it makes a poor show of telling children what to do when confronted by a child abuser.

Magneto

Thanks to Walter WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY up at the top of this post for supplying the newest proof of just how sick and twisted the Watchtower Society is.

Having said that I've reposted Walter's piece with the more interesting points highlighted. For those of you who are slow, non-free thinking Dubs who have been sent here to spy on us (VERY Christian by the way), the numbered statements will correspond with the highlighted and numbered pieces of text in the Watchtower Publication, since I have no desire to expend energy retyping ANYTHING that spews forth from that twisted and evil organization.

#1) Telling a child that "God" will protect them in times such as the situations described above IS WRONG. Telling them this implies for them that "God" will directly intervene when a sexual attack occurs. Failing that it furthermore implies that "God" will undo what damage has been done physically AND emotionally as a result of said sexual attack. When "God" does NOT follow through on these promises the WTS makes, what then? Is the child to assume that "God" didn't intervene because the child is not worthy of "God's" love and protection? Or is the child to think that even though "God" did NOT stop the sexual assault right then and there that all the results of said assault will be undone somehow? What's the WTS response to this when the child finds themselves plagued by nightmares or psychological episodes in the wake of said assault? Wouldn't that be proof that "God" has not "undone" the tragedy that has befallen this helpless child? "Why didn't he help ME? Is there something WRONG with ME?" will likely be the victims next thoughts. The emotional and psychological damage, even so the physical damage resulting from either, could possibly be irreversible.

#2) Who is to say though that this will result in negative behavior? This child has endured one of the most horrible crimes imaginable in my opinion. But to assume they are more prone to "bad" behavior is just as hateful as abusing the child. ANYONE who makes a child feel "bad" or "unclean" in the wake of a sexual assault, should meet a horribly graphic, painful, and immediate end. Furthermore, those who protect the molester, (JW Elders who claim the accused confessed a sin to them regarding the abuse and thus are protected from revealing the abuser and bringing him to proper justice just for an example), should as well meet the fate described above. To protect a child molester on the ground of "religious confidentiality" or what ever the hell you call it, is BULLSHIT! You've given the molester license to continue his malicious assault on children unopposed. You should thus be held responsible as an accessory to the crime. Criminal negligence atleast.

#3) Or perhaps they will be an Elder or other respected authority figure in your congregation. Or your father/stepfather or mother/stepmother. OR The pioneer/publisher/wahtever the hell you call yourselves knocking on your door. If your really lucky kids, it may even be a special "shepherding call" just for you! Come now Dubbies, lets not exclude yourselves from the possible suspects and potential criminals. You organization is corrupt who is to say some of you "loyal followers" aren't as well.

#4) We MUST see predators for what they are! Sick twisted individuals who only wants sexual gratification by any means necessary. This is NOT limited to sex with children! It can be acts of depraved humiliation committed against the child, things so sick I care not to describe them. Or failing that the filthy bastard might just get off on beating the living shit out of your kids.

#5) Please! Threatening to tell on him?!?! This line should continue....."and if I'm lucky threatening to expose you WON'T result in a rage induced violent outburst resulting a trip to the hospital for me, therapy or the rest of my natural life, or (GASP!) AN EARLY GRAVE!" Let us not also forget that the child to adult height ratio results in this piece of trash being in some cases 2 to 3 times the size of his victims. Do you know any child who is gonna defend themselves successfully from a fully grown man or woman? Much more escape being paralyzed with fear long enough to mount a defense?

#6) Another line that was cut to short/miss-worded! Lets see what happens when its and Elder and his house they are talking about. Or perhaps a trusted member of the congregation! What will you do then JW parents? You better be sure to have "THE PREFERRED TWO WITNESSES TO THE SAME OFFENSE," or else you could just be overlooked by a council of Elders who think they don't have enough proof to do anything. And "God" help you if you warn other parents of the dangers to their children without proof. This could lead to dissension among the congregation, or distrust of your "Christian" brothers and sisters, and an outright division of your kingdom hall! What's gonna happen then? YOU WILL BE DISFELLOWSHIPPED for slander and conduct that created an unstable environment among your congregation!

Do any of you Dubs or other people on here get it yet? The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is a malicious cancer that must be expunged. I feel deeply sorry for all who put their faith and time and energy into this organization. I truly feel for the people who have been lead to believe that this is an organization that cares about their Christian beliefs. And I feel nothing but anger and violent rage for the people they protect who harm children. What child molesters need to understand is that IF YOU EVER HARM A CHILD FOR ANY REASON, YOU WILL BE CAUGHT, EXPOSED FOR THE PIECE OF SHIT YOU ARE, AND PUNISHED. What the molesters and the people who protect them ALSO need to know is that THAT DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN THE POLICE WILL GET YOU. I know that if my girlfriend and I get married and have a child together, and she continues to go to the JW meetings that she goes to now, and that resulted in ANYWAY in a piece of gutter trash committing a sexual attack on my son or daughter, or wife for that matter, that lowlife Son Of A Bitch would do well to thank his or her "God" that the cops got them before I do.

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Help me find the right antedote to wake sleeping beauty

by shotgun in

my wife will not entertain the thought that the org is not directed by god.

even when presented with constant organizational flip flops she believes its gods direction.

and why not thats what she has been taught since childhood.. is ther anything that seems to work better in reasoning with women inparticular.

Magneto

I honestly cannot believe how much your plight mirrors mine. I can truly identify, the only differences are me and my gilfriend are not even egnaged yet, and we ofcourse have no children together yet. I think the one thing you MUST adhere to, is the point that you are not trying to disrupt her belief in God and Christ, nor are you trying to put down her christianity. The enemy here is the WTS not christianity, and I wholly agree that the war must be fought with information. The WTS uses scare tactics and behavior modification. They subtley place cues in the minds of thier followers, barrage them with information and one of two things will happen, they either go silent and try to change the subject, or they return fire with a barrage of reactionary and spiteful statments. The elders are also the most potent threat here, just as they are with my girlfriend. They will stop at nothing to put a halt to your mission. I can only hope that we both can find the strength in the love we have for our special girls to overcome. There have been points where my empathy for the poor people who have been brainwashed by this group have turned to rage, and my pity has turn to hatred. I would love nothing more then to see the entire organization wiped away like dust off a book. Hopefully the opportuinity will present itself and a direct assault on thier credibility will arise. I eagerly seek that day, but until then I can only try to help my girlfriend, her mother, and thier friends if possible. I just want my girl to enjoy her life on her terms, and not thiers.

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Does our little crusade matter to the world?

by sleepy in

jw
friends

does our little crusade matter to the world?.

considering jw's make up such a small part of the worlds population to what extent do our beefs with the organisation matter to anyone unconnected?.

should our opinions of witness beliefs concern people more than witness themselves .should everyone have the right to make up there own mind and chose to be witnesses without us interfereing?.

Magneto

I was raised to believe that when you see someone in touble, or being misguided, or taken by someone who has little concern for thier spiritual/physical/emotional well being, you must take action. That person must be helped and then taught to help others who suffer under the thumb of an opressor. I find it interesting as well, that for a "religion" formed and grown in America, they find no respect or support of those who would die to protect thier right to practice said "religion." I find myself coming more and more to the conclusion that they must be dealt with, immediatley. I seek to discredit them and maybe in some small way bring thier dubious actions to light. My personal goal is the spiritual liberation of my loving girlfriend (an un-baptised JW congregation member,) and her poor misguided mother (a full fledged JW.) Thier relationship is being strained by these manipulative animals, and her mother blames me for trying to corrupt her daughter's "christianity." Naturally they use the armageddon tactic to frighten and scare my girlfriend and her mother to stay in line. I can only imagine how many countless others are also stripped of thier freedoms of choice out of the fear induced by these emotionally abusive tyrants. Thusly, I am now actively seeking any and all information anyone can provide and The Watchtowers structure. More so, I am also entertaining machinations that will allow for a deeper understanding of how things work in the Watchtower building....speciafically security measures, data storage facilities shift changes etc. Documentation is key here friends.If they are truly entwined in business dealings that contradict what they teach thier helpless brainwashed followers then hardcopy evidence must exist, failing that, some manner of electronic storage must exist. It is my desire and goal to obtain said information. and use it to expose the morally corrupt organization for what it is. Not only do I desire the liberation of my girlfriend and her mother from the chain of lies that they are tethered to The WTS with, I seek freedom for the countless others including and specifically the helpless children left to fend for themselves against malicious sexual predators. I want them done, gone. Little more then a fading stain on the tapestry of time. I would of course welcome allies in my crusade, but as quickly I would be compelled to loose my vengeful attention to those who would impede our progress as well.

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Let's kick things off

by Simon in

as you can see from my profile, i'm from the uk and was brought up in the truth.. how about some introductions from people ?

Magneto

It seems I'm the first person to use this particular section in a while. I just wanted to say hello and announce my presence to you. I am Magneto.

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A CALL TO ALLIES

by Magneto in

i was raised to believe that when you see someone in touble, or being misguided, or taken by someone who has little concern for thier spiritual/physical/emotional well being, you must take action.

that person must be helped and then taught to help others who suffer under the thumb of an opressor.

i find it interesting as well, that for a "religion" formed and grown in america, they find no respect or support of those who would die to protect thier right to practice said "religion.

Magneto

I was raised to believe that when you see someone in touble, or being misguided, or taken by someone who has little concern for thier spiritual/physical/emotional well being, you must take action. That person must be helped and then taught to help others who suffer under the thumb of an opressor. I find it interesting as well, that for a "religion" formed and grown in America, they find no respect or support of those who would die to protect thier right to practice said "religion." I find myself coming more and more to the conclusion that they must be dealt with, immediatley. I seek to discredit them and maybe in some small way bring thier dubious actions to light. My personal goal is the spiritual liberation of my loving girlfriend (an un-baptised JW congregation member,) and her poor misguided mother (a full fledged JW.) Thier relationship is being strained by these manipulative animals, and her mother blames me for trying to corrupt her daughter's "christianity." Naturally they use the armageddon tactic to frighten and scare my girlfriend and her mother to stay in line. I can only imagine how many countless others are also stripped of thier freedoms of choice out of the fear induced by these emotionally abusive tyrants. Thusly, I am now actively seeking any and all information anyone can provide and The Watchtowers structure. More so, I am also entertaining machinations that will allow for a deeper understanding of how things work in the Watchtower building....speciafically security measures, data storage facilities shift changes etc. Documentation is key here friends.If they are truly entwined in business dealings that contradict what they teach thier helpless brainwashed followers then hardcopy evidence must exist, failing that, some manner of electronic storage must exist. It is my desire and goal to obtain said information. and use it to expose the morally corrupt organization for what it is. Not only do I desire the liberation of my girlfriend and her mother from the chain of lies that are tethered to The WTS with. I want them done, gone. Little more then a fading stain on the tapestry of time. I would ofcourse welcome allies in my crusade, but as quickly I would be compelled to loose my vengeful attention to those who would impede our progress as well.

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He He, I met two dubs today

by johnathanseagull in

did my usual jaunt this morning biking down to the train station in ddorf to get my sundaytimes (just need that shot of english !!!

)...taking my normal route home, low and behold, two dubs holding watchtowers in various languages, one was a young lad of say no more than 25, the other 50ish, looked like he could sell me a car lol..........i asked if they could speak english, the lad replied yes, they were greek by the way.........i was straight in with "i left due to the 1995 "generation" definition change" (hey i lied but whats a lil ole white lie in theocratic war eh?

)...........the young lad didnt know about it, although he admitted being in da truff at the time !!!!

Magneto

This is once more, evidence of why this organization must be dealt with. I was raised to believe that when you see someone in touble, or being misguided, or taken by someone who has little concern for thier spiritual/physical/emotional well being, you must take action. That person must be helped and then taught to help others who suffer under the thumb of an opressor. I find it interesting as well, that for a "religion" formed and grown in America, they find no respect or support of those who would die to protect thier right to practice said "religion." I find myself coming more and more to the conclusion that they must be dealt with, immediatley. I seek to discredit them and maybe in some small way bring thier dubious actions to light. My personal goal is the spiritual liberation of my loving girlfriend (an un-baptised JW congregation member,) and her poor misguided mother (a full fledged JW.) Thier relationship is being strained by these manipulative animals, and her mother blames me for trying to corrupt her daughter's "christianity." Naturally they use the armageddon tactic to frighten and scare my girlfriend and her mother to stay in line. I can only imagine how many countless others are also stripped of thier freedoms of choice out of the fear induced by these emotionally abusive tyrants. Thusly, I am now actively seeking any and all information anyone can provide and The Watchtowers structure. More so, I am also entertaining machinations that will allow for a deeper understanding of how things work in the Watchtower building....speciafically security measures, data storage facilities shift changes etc. Documentation is key here friends.If they are truly entwined in business dealings that contradict what they teach thier helpless brainwashed followers then hardcopy evidence must exist, failing that, some manner of electronic storage must exist. It is my desire and goal to obtain said information. and use it to expose the morally corrupt organization for what it is. Not only do I desire the liberation of my girlfriend and her mother from the chain of lies that are tethered to The WTS with. I want them done, gone. Little more then a fading stain on the tapestry of time. I would ofcourse welcome allies in my crusade, but as quickly I would be compelled to loose my vengeful attention to those who would impede our progress as well.

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bethel elder and his wife stalk me in macys diner

by topanga in

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they sat at the counter with me him with his back turned and her giving him a play by play of my every move and how much i ate.. i just ignored them they were like two steaming piles of shit for me to walk around.he follows me around the neighborhood yelling insults trying to get me to turn around and look at him but to me he's just some crazy vagrant or pervert to be ignored.. she ordered ice cream and he sat there trying to look like the picture of a good husband and i just laughed out loud, she didn't know that in the past while married to her he used to hang around outside my job every morning, or that he would call me on the phone romancing me.. i just sat there laughing thinking you are nothing special to him all those years he was calling me, would'nt be surprised if he called again..

Magneto

Hello everyone. This is Sylentknyght. I have decided to change my name and picture to reflect my opnion that a more pro-active approach to dealing with JW oppressors is in order. So I figured, who better then Magneto? Granted his methods tend to be a little harsh, but nonetheless, he never backs down from a threat to his people, or in my case, my loved ones (girlfriend). However with the change in name, comes a change in attitude. I am now actively seeking any and all information anyone can provide and The Watchtowers structure. More so, I am also entertaining machinations that will allow for a deeper understanding of how things work in the Watchtower building....speciafically security measures, data storage facilities shift changes etc. Documentation is key here friends.If they are truly entwined in business dealings that contradict what they teach thier helpless brainwashed followers then hardcopy evidence must exist, failing that, some manner of electronic storage must exist. It is my desire and goal to obtain said information. and use it to expose the morally corrupt organization for what it is. Not only do I desire the liberation of my girlfriend and her mother from the chain of lies that are tethered to The WTS with. I want them done, gone. Little more then a fading stain on the tapestry of time. I would ofcourse welcome allies in my crusade, but as quickly I would be compelled to loose my vengeful attention to those who would impede our progress as well.

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Supreme Court Ruling Thursday on Grounds of Privacy

by ninecharger in

jw
friends

thursday, the supreme court overturned the ruling in the 1986 georgia case bowers v hardwick.

in essence the court said that anti-sodomy laws are unconstitutional as they invade the citizen's right to sexual privacy.

how will the wt react?

Magneto

Hello everyone. This is Sylentknyght. I have decided to change my name and picture to reflect my opnion that a more pro-active approach to dealing with JW oppressors is in order. So I figured, who better then Magneto? Granted his methods tend to be a little harsh, but nonetheless, he never backs down from a threat to his people, or in my case, my loved ones (girlfriend). However with the change in name, comes a change in attitude. I am now actively seeking any and all information anyone can provide and The Watchtowers structure. More so, I am also entertaining machinations that will allow for a deeper understanding of how things work in the Watchtower building....speciafically security measures, data storage facilities shift changes etc. Documentation is key here friends.If they are truly entwined in business dealings that contradict what they teach thier helpless brainwashed followers then hardcopy evidence must exist, failing that, some manner of electronic storage must exist. It is my desire and goal to obtain said information. and use it to expose the morally corrupt organization for what it is. Not only do I desire the liberation of my girlfriend and her mother from the chain of lies that are tethered to The WTS with. I want them done, gone. Little more then a fading stain on the tapestry of time. I would ofcourse welcome allies in my crusade, but as quickly I would be compelled to loose my vengeful attention to those who would impede our progress as well.

MAGNETO HAS SPOKEN