Posts by A.proclaimer

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Hello, I am new

by LillyC in

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i am not a jehovah's witness but i am very interested, i have many questions and hope they can be answered here.. i do believe in god, privately.

i do say my prayers daily and do believe god helps me in countless ways.

but i don't go to any church.. i have always been impressed at how smart, polite and nice jehovah's witnesses are and i always make time to speak to them when they call at my door.

Many of us here have been in your footsteps before. I can't say I was because I was born in, but there are others who aren't. Anyway, before joining, I suggest you take a look at both sides of the equation before making a formal decision. Look at the history, past and current teachings, the positives and negatives, the different experiences people have, do some research. Jwfacts.com is a good start, and of course you have the official website Jw.org. There are many different ways to interpret the Bible, and the Witnesses have many unique ones compared to mainstream Christians. In the end, the decision is yours to make to join or not, but there are many people who will gladly help with questions.

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The Organization is expanding so much........

by DATA-DOG in

...that district overseers are now being used as circuit overseers!!

that was a comment at the wt study program.

another great comment was this: " you can go to bethel and have zero skills.

A.proclaimer

Cutting hair was a really popular job in my old congregation. Those that couldn't find jobs went for that. think of it as the equivalent of window washing.

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One day Assemblies and the removal of the RBC

by A.proclaimer in

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so i was at a jw gathering today, and i over heard a brother telling a sister about these new changes.

according to him, both one day circuit assemblies will be put together on the same weekend, one on saturday, the next on sunday.

that way the assembly halls could be used to fit in more circuits as they increase in numbers.

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So I was at a JW gathering today, and I over heard a brother telling a sister about these new changes. According to him, both one day circuit assemblies will be put together on the same weekend, one on Saturday, the next on Sunday. That way the assembly halls could be used to fit in more circuits as they increase in numbers. New halls means more people and circuits which means they will be able to use the same Assembly hall without the need to build a new one.

As for the Regional Building Comitee (RBC), I heard him say that the plan was to remove them and instead, make a departmant at that would be incharge of the construction of Kingdom Halls and Watchtower properties worldwide. Not just that, they will be building houses for missionaries (and I think full time pioneers or something having to do with pioneers) and have maintenance teams in charge of maintaining the properties and kingdom halls. He said that the brothers reporting this were very "giddy" as it was "the biggest change" in their history.

I also overheard something about having rescue teams during disasters. That brothers have their own equipment and such. But I couldnt hear everything so that's all I know.

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Pushing the JW.ORG

by Etude in

i took these pictures over a month ago.

i had not realized that they were really pushing their site.

this was at our farmers market, although they were not officially in the market area but off the side on the sidewalk.. .

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They are really trying to get people to go onto the the JW.org. Now they recommend showing householders the website, and make sure to mention it during the preaching work. February's Kingdom Ministry for the week of the 17th even had a discussion on it:

"Are you Using JW.org in your Ministry? Discussion. Invite audience to relate good experiences they have had using jw.org in the ministry. Encourage the audience to publicize jw.org at every appropriate opportunity." KM 02/2014 p.2

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Will firing the DOs be the first step to a new Watchtower?

by Juan Viejo2 in

against my better judgement, i've decided to share the following as a response to guy pierce passing and the announcement of the elimination of district overseers later this year.. late in january (2014) i got an email from one of my contacts (a fader) who served at bethel for several years, but is no longer at wt hq.

he still has a lot of close contacts within the service department and in other departments at patterson and knows people in all of the ny offices.

i kept this email set aside on a flash drive and haven't shared it with anyone - figuring i'd publish an article about it later this year when i had more time to do it right.

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Wow these are big suggested changes that are coming up. I had a feeling this was coming ever since they said to listen to the organization whether it "appears sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not." I'm expecting the 144,000 to change, no way they could excuse the increasing number as being a "mental" problem or something from a previous religious experience. As for cutting off sisters from the anointed, that would be a real blow for them, for any sister that partook. So I don't think they could really pull that off, unless like what was said that it will be ambiguous. These guys are smart to plan changes in small pieces. The average JW will only see this as a minor changes and as time goes on, it adds up to something big that they won't realize the leap it took from the previous teaching. Changes to the 144,000 will shake up some members.

Putting the Watchtower and Awake would be a lot more convenient. It would be as long as the old Watchtowers, about 30 pages. Though it is a break from the history of these magazines, it's always been two. Ironic that the "dumbing down" was brought up since I remember at the annual meeting where the new bible was released, they mentioned how these new magazines were simplified to make it easy for everyone to read, thanking Jehovah for all these changes.

Now it's just time to sit back and see what will happen, what will be accepted and changed, and what will remain the same.

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BOE District Overseers- CONFIDENTIAL

by WatchTower87 in

instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

no virus ;-).

boe district overseers- confidential pdf: http://adf.ly/glwdn.

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Cutting down on one level will save resources. No need to have more people, to care for them or pay for cars, travel, the time to train them. Saves time and money. Like Wisdomfromabove said, there are no more district conventions, no district overseers. I doubt that every DO will be turned into a CO, too many people around unless there's a shortage of COs or they rework the whole system. We are living during a time of change for the Watchtower, new advertisements (JW.org), doctrinal changes, no Brooklyn, no District Assemblies, death of a governing body member and now this.

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Heard a rumor: Guy Pierce died this morning

by respectful_observer in

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didn't see any other threads, apologies if one already exists.

apparently died of a massive stroke this morning.. r_o.

(completely unconfirmed.

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So that's who he looks like!, grandpa from the Munsters. Thought he had a familiar face. Cross that with Liberace too. RIP Guy Pierce, off to the launching pad. I wonder what they'll do now, if there will be a new member to take his place, or just stick with 7.

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Is anyone else completely astonished that they're drawing attention to 1914/2014 - 100 years

by jambon1 in

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i note that they're making reference to this in the upcoming convention programme.

someone has has dropped a bollock here, have they not?.

i mean, if i were a jw, i'd be sitting thinking of all the promises made and broken.

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It's too difficult to drop 1914 at this point. Too many years invested in that date with defending 607, and a lot of important doctrines and authority rely on it. Since it's 100 years, they are forced to recognize it. I think there are many JWs that are doubting or disappointed as you said. Of course, with faith in the faithful and discreet slave, aka the Governing Body, JWs will just follow whatever new information they're told. That's why there was a watchtower study not too long ago about being patient and keep waiting, in the meantime, follow the organization no matter what.

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Anybody watching the show Resurrection?

by mynameislame in

resurrection.

the lives of the people of arcadia, missouri, are forever changed when their deceased loved ones return.. .

so far it seems to be an interesting take on the subject.

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I haven't seen it but I do remember that a couple in the congregation talking about it while out in the field service car ride. The husband is an elder. Anyway, a young brother brings it up, saying how the show portrays the resurrected returning as a kid. the Elder and his wife start talking about how that idea goes against the Bible that the ressurected can't be children and such, that it looks demonic. So I butt in and say that I'm sure that the producers weren't basing it all off the bible, it's just a work of fiction, creativity. Then they did agree, but the Elders wife dissmissed it as a "worldy show" she wasn't going to watch.

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June Study WT Up and Bashing Uni Again

by konceptual99 in

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rehashed format but same ole' shite.. hypocritical article on viewing "weak" ones compassionately usign the example of a single mum arriving late yet the may km has a whole article on how rude it is not to be punctual.. read it and weep....

A.proclaimer

Theres a story with similarities to this in the early 70's watchtower article, except it was about a women's rights feminist group. As the story goes, one lady was in this group, became disappointed with the way things worked out because some people argued and some said they we're fighting for "lesbian" rights and such. So this lady studies with the Jehovah's Witnesses, learned about how things will improve in the future, about how a man is suppose to be dominant head-of-the-house, leaves them and became a happy Witness.