Posts by Frank75

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Attended Memorial Service, disgusted...

by Wasanelder Once in

out of loyalty to a friend that died i went to his memorial service today.

get this, in 30 minutes of service his name was said 3 times.

three times.

Frank75

Strange. The two JW funeral services I went to in the last couple of years were quite balanced. They had a range of people getting up and giving experiences about the persons life, including one or two non-JW relatives, but there was also some preachy stuff.
This might have happened at a memorial service at a funeral home but I can't believe it would EVER happen at a K.H. The STANDARD K.H. spiel includes very little about the person and deals with the faith and hopes for the future. No one is ALLOWED on the platform except the elder conducting the talk and certainly any jw's would be excluded automatically.

It happened once in my experience. An actual eulogy, in a kingdom hall. A former JW friend's (aren't they all?) mother in law died in Austria after a serious operation. They had a funeral in Australia and wanted to have memorial service in Canada. She was a well known Austrian holocaust survivor who knew all of the JW survivors.

In the week or so before the service my friend called everyone he knew at bethel and Brooklyn, even Garret Louche who was a personal friend. No one, not even him, would cancel their assignments to give the talk. It was pitiful. In the final moments Glen Howe who was\is the big shot Watchtower lawyer took it on and canceled some assembly part he was to give. It was an awesome talk. He looked out on the audience and held up his outline and said, "everyone here knows every word and scripture in this outline, so there is no need to review it. We are just going to talk about Mary and her life."

There was also another JW who came up from the holocaust memorial to give a few words. He spoke for 1/2 hour and could have gone on. He related about her hospitality, her kindness, how well spoken of she was amongst the dubs he had interviewed about the war. etc.

It was the nicest JW funeral I have ever been to. However not very many people could have got away with what Glenn Howe did!

Frank75

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For those who've settled on 'no contact' with their JW families . . .

by Madame Quixote in

for whatever reason.

do you question it sometimes and think you should try to "reach out" to them again?

i was this morning and then came across the thread above and was reminded why i need to stay away.. but, still, i read threads of people who have managed somehow, despite being d'f'ed or faded or d'aed and think i might try to be more understanding, supportive, reach out or something.. despite all the problems growing up in a fairly dysfunctional family, i still feel a deep attachment to them and hope against hope that they might come to their senses (if they ever had any to begin with) and get help and leave the cult of jehobo; and we might reconcile,etc., etc., blah blah blah dream dream dream.. i deeply wish for them all freedom and happiness and healing and feel so helpless to free them of their bonds and yet see so much possibility for it, if only they could be reached somehow.

Frank75

I choose to mostly let them be. So far some relatives have sought me out and there has been a mostly positive result from that.

The best was when my younger brother called me up out of the blue. Years ago when I left the JW's he told me to stay away from him and his family, which I did.

When I was later DF'd he told me that he was just as bad as everyone else talking about me being an apostate, stubborn, refuse discipline etc. although he had no idea of what had happened. After a while he said the gossip just got to be too much, as he knew full well that the things being said were not true. Additionally he was getting the "guilt by association" routine, you know, every talk on loyalty themes, Korah, Hymanaeus etc. You get the picture.

We need to remember that a "disloyal JW" puts a real stress on the loyal ones. They are hell bent to live down the scrutiny imposed by our departure. They must prove or feel they must prove to the others that they are super loyal dubs.

Anyway, my Brother called me one day wanting to get together and talk about what really happened, and that has helped him and his wife and their 5 children get out.

They were already prepared to leave, they just needed help untangling the programming. That readiness is key to having any success reconnecting.

Long story short, he says that if I had come after him or tried to send him stuff to read, letters or emails, that he wouldn't have listened. The fact that I was living my life peacefully gave him pause.

I know it is not the way for everyone to deal with JW family and former friends, but for me, I won't back from a fight, but there is no honour in looking for one.

I am not much good at pretending either. So this "don't ask don't tell" policy sounds as inviting as having a relationship with a toaster.

Just my 2 cents worth.

Frank75

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HAVE SOME FUN WITH THE MAY 2007 AWAKE!

by Mary in

jw
friends

ok, here's the original:.

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and here's a blank canvas for you: .

Frank75

Scully!

You da man! (colloquially speaking of course) Great job. I wonder if we could get a whole thread of PhotoShop Watchtower covers dealing with "The Brady Factor" and tie in hemorrhoids?

However Shane has a long illustrious yet unpaid career ahead of him. With more and more Witnesses waking up from the coma, there will be more action for the Watchtower legal departments everywhere.

You gotta be happy about that.

Frank75

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A question for all Whisky drinkers.

by lfcviking in

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friends

hello chumz on the board.

nothing really to do with jwism but who prefers the american 'bourbon' type such as 'wild turkey', 'jim beam' etc or who prefers a fine single malt scotch such as 'glenfiddich' or 'glenmorangie'?

i am not trying to stir up nationalism with this question but am just genuinely curious.. lfcv.

Frank75

Could the little beaners have made the bottle any more phallic?

Frank75

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A question for all Whisky drinkers.

by lfcviking in

jw
friends

hello chumz on the board.

nothing really to do with jwism but who prefers the american 'bourbon' type such as 'wild turkey', 'jim beam' etc or who prefers a fine single malt scotch such as 'glenfiddich' or 'glenmorangie'?

i am not trying to stir up nationalism with this question but am just genuinely curious.. lfcv.

Frank75

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Courtesy

It isn't Scotch (heaven forbid), and it ain't Bourbon, but this is what I'm sippin' in the hot tub tonight. La Cofradia Tequila Reposado

It is much more pleasant than it looks.

Salud!

Frank75

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HAVE SOME FUN WITH THE MAY 2007 AWAKE!

by Mary in

jw
friends

ok, here's the original:.

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and here's a blank canvas for you: .

Frank75

This is one of the funniest threads I have seen since....well the last time everyone did this!

I love the pot shots at Shane Brady. Guy's an F'in idiot! I know we aren't supposed to use real names here, but I never thought Shane Brady was a real name anyway.

You had to have a name like Sikorski, Szabinski or Shostack to get into Canada Bethel!

PS, You didn't have to share a room with Greenlees for 20 years to have hemorrhoids coming out of the Borg. That's for damn sure!

Good work everybody!

Frank75

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Cicuit Overseer and District Overseer came looking for me today............

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

last week was the 2 day assembly.i didn't go to either one.

today,my mom called and told me the the c.o.

and d.o.came for a visit.i've been attending only once a week and no field service in about 4 years.

Frank75

Better still, than making yourself sick, make them sick!!
Bake a batch of chocolate chunk brownies and replace the chocolate chunks with ExLax. Tell them you feel bad that you missed them when they came by and just wanted to thank them for caring about you so much.
Not only will you ruin their suits, but you'll ruin their next stop on their visiting tour.

Sheesh! Why can't i think up stuff like that.

All I have done recently was go around to the 6 kingdom halls in driving distance and squeeze crazy glue into the lock tumblers on memorial night.

I need to get some new tricks. I know it's off topic but anyone got some suggestions?

Frank75

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Who got a FREE PASS in your Kingdom Hall

by NotaNess in

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friends

this has probably been a topic before, but why not re-hash?!.

who in your kindom hall got away with the way they acted or things they did, just because they were a jw, and what was it?.

Frank75

In the congregation I used to belong to, a 17 year old baptized elder's son was recently caught smoking marijuana while at school. His friends ratted him out as a dealer, and the police actually conducted a huge search of his house and found felony amounts of marijuana.
If this kid was an adult, he'd be looking at a big prison sentence. But he isn't.

Not if he lived in Canada.

I digress.

The last thread asking for stories got killed by me partly because I had too many. So I'll just say I know lots.

Frank75

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Commercials

by purplesofa in

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friends

i never did this until recently but i mute commercials (expect geico caveman ones) .

first cialis and viagra and now ....male enhancement commercials!!!

is this many people really having so many problems with sex?????.

Frank75

Get a Tivo or a PVR. I haven't watched a commercial in years. (well you know what I mean);(Actually there are some that are better than TV/movies)

Frank75

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A question for all Whisky drinkers.

by lfcviking in

jw
friends

hello chumz on the board.

nothing really to do with jwism but who prefers the american 'bourbon' type such as 'wild turkey', 'jim beam' etc or who prefers a fine single malt scotch such as 'glenfiddich' or 'glenmorangie'?

i am not trying to stir up nationalism with this question but am just genuinely curious.. lfcv.

Frank75

NVR:

Sorry I missed your calling out of the Bruichladdick XVII. For an Islay Scotch it has to be one of the best bangs for the buck. Not too salty or peaty but robust for the true enthusiast. Bourbon drinkers should try this as Bruichladdic prefers using American Oak Casks for aging as opposed to the typical Port and Sherry casks of the other Singles.

About 10 years ago the Liquor store up here (Government run) manager (who is a dub by the way that got to about 3 meetings a year and now he even shuns me!) told me that Bruichladdich was closing their distillery so I bought up every last drop in about a 50 mile radius. I even took some with me to the DR!

They actually had closed the distillery some years before and it was just the delay of product coming to market. Upon further investigation I found that the distillery was bought out and because of age was renovated top to bottom which took a number of years.

I don't know if you got the brochure in one of your bottles, but these guys actually offered to the public whole casks of future scotch runs. You could buy a barrel, and commission them to bottle it at 10,15 or 20 years in the future for a nominal fee. They would even do up a special label for you at the time of bottling. Barrel 200L, Hogshead 250L or Butts 500L. The Butt was about 2400 pounds! or $5000. That's a lot of Scotch! At least a years worth anyway.

I stared at that brochure for weeks. I recognized the wisdom of making such a plan for the inevitable future. However even though I left or was in the process of leaving the JW's, I could not bring myself to make the purchase.

I have my eye on the 20 year old "Digestif

They recommend the following: "Add a dash of spring water (5%) to release the full flavours and bouquet"

I must admit I do not recall ever trying Glenfarclas. What praises ye sing de thee?

Slainte Mhath (actually the islanders are more apt to say "Up yours" if you believe that)

Frank75