as jws we were told only 144000 go to heaven from the time of christ right up to this day.it dawned on me before i was baptized one day during my study that the numbers dont add up.
the brother was telling me that the roman persecutions of the christians were killing thousands every week.
initially, within weeks of jesus death, there were 5000 christians at least in jerusalem.
Here are the math
144,000 minus 8000 (the so called remnant living today) = 136,000
136,000 divided by 1900 (centuries) = 71.5
soooooo on average according to the Blotchtower only 71.5 "true christians" made it into Jahooobah's good books every year
Unreal huh?
here endeth the lesson
i'm gearing up for an extended trip to europe starting this summer.
i'm hoping to stay about two years altogether, and i'd like to stay about six months each in four different locations.
i'm thinking about starting in germany, mostly because i'm interested in studying german and i've heard it's a beatiful country.. so here's my question.
Hi SNG
From my own experience away from the city centre is of course cheaper and dont worry about the public transport, most larger cities have excellent services including bus, u-bahn and s-bahn. Going through an agent to find an apartment can be expensive, and based on the time you rent. For example I paid 1100 Euros, commission on a 750 a month apartment in Duesseldorf, for what amounted to a couple of nice photos on the web and a couple of emails!!!!!. www.easyroommate.com is a good place to start for something cheaper with no commission but google "berlin apartments" and something will come up. As far as dialects are concerned, germanexjw would have more to say on the matter but yes the far south "Bayern" has a dialect which is difficult to say the least. From my own expereince, Frankfurt would be a good middle point to live, 3 hours either way on the high speed ICE train you can be in France and Switzerland. Do look out for the cheap airlines operating in Europe now, great bargins to most big european cities, one word of warning, the airports they use are not the major airports but usually smaller ones maybe a distance of 50km of the chosen city. Make a note of the following:
ok thats about it for now, if I think of anything else I'll pm you
Jgull
ps the two best beers are Kolsh from Koeln (Cologne) and Alt a dark beer from Duesseldorf. ;-)
they finished high school?
college?
etc and what year were you told?.
I was told by an "Annoited" in 1984, that and I quote
"that the world was sooooo wicked, I cant see it lasting more than three years before Jehovah brings his destruction upon the earth"
LMAO
JS
i gave my intro and then disappeared for a month.
just not enough time these days.. anyway .
.. some of your names are self-explanatory, but some definitely have to be explained to be understood.. i'll start.
Mine's a book "jonathan livingston seagull" by Richard Bach
okay, i dont even like soccer, just a bunch of guys running behind a stupid ball and one trying to stop that same ball.. but damn, the half-finals is a huge deal, and we made it this far.
.... the last match was nerve wrecking .. we played 0-0 and then the penalties came,.
so tonight we play against portugal .......... *inhale* its starting .... oh the exitement ...... .
August sounds just dandy Viv , I'll promise to wear my "ex watchtower slave" tee-shirt too!!!..........I'll keep August weekends clear.....maybe we can get some over from the uk, who knows, lets go for it.
JGull
okay, i dont even like soccer, just a bunch of guys running behind a stupid ball and one trying to stop that same ball.. but damn, the half-finals is a huge deal, and we made it this far.
.... the last match was nerve wrecking .. we played 0-0 and then the penalties came,.
so tonight we play against portugal .......... *inhale* its starting .... oh the exitement ...... .
high time indeed for a Dam meetup...........think on and mail
JGull
okay, i dont even like soccer, just a bunch of guys running behind a stupid ball and one trying to stop that same ball.. but damn, the half-finals is a huge deal, and we made it this far.
.... the last match was nerve wrecking .. we played 0-0 and then the penalties came,.
so tonight we play against portugal .......... *inhale* its starting .... oh the exitement ...... .
Arrrrrrr Viv never mind, sitting with laptop, waiting for final whistle before I posted , crank up an Amsterdam apostafest to make you feel better
i have long laughed about this so when i saw it, it was pretty funny.
maybe you had to be there.. i was on the city bus this morning, on my way to school.
(i'm in college) anyway, i saw a guy reading a watchtower and i was wondering if he was a real dubbie or had just picked up the magazine off the seat or something.
That's soooo funny hehehe, yeah back in my JW days, the JW's almost had a monopoly on cleaning shop windows in my city.
hey guys, .
was just wondering what is your worst jw buzzword.
probably all of us hate the "just leave it in jehovah's hands.
" Jehovah removed him/her from the congregation"
lots of growth in the org = "We have Jehovahs blessing" /// no growth in the org = "the end is near"
there are a lot of things discussed on this forum that could be duplicated here, but i need some answers for a dissertation.
the themes jws prioritize that i know are armageddon, judgement day, christ.
but can you all tell me why they prior.
A little snippet which may be of use.......after questioning my dub sister last year on the 1995 generation change, she said and I quote "well it's not as if it was a big doctrine like Blood".......I swear my jaw touched the ground
JGull
