ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
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LOL! I still believe it's the Truth and I'm an active publisher, but I still didn't go to the RC nor am I pioneering in August. No angst for me. |
Sorry for your poor health I hope your are doing better.
Just a Question what exactly do you believe is the truth?
That the governing body are gods only spokesman on earth?
ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
Stirred I think that you are letting them off a little too easy. Jehovahs witnesses do have integrity as discribed in definition #2 but not so much when weighed against definition #1. in·teg·ri·ty inˈtegritē/ noun
| synonyms: | honesty, probity, rectitude, honor, good character, principle(s), ethics,morals, righteousness, morality, virtue, decency, fairness,scrupulousness, sincerity, truthfulness, trustworthiness More |
| synonyms: | unity, unification, coherence, cohesion, togetherness, solidarity More |
and their lack of integrity as described in definition #1 causes great pain in the lives of many they come across. They do not honestly examine their organization or its policies and condone theocratic warfare to lure unsuspecting new recuits and to protect the status quo. if siar and others wish to decieve them and it eases their exit pains or saves others from being decieved then kudos to them.
brainfloss
the watchtower study to be considered this sunday, august 3, 2014 (using the magazine dated may 15, 2014), titled are you moving ahead with jehovahs organization?, in paragraph seven (on pages 27-28), talks about the number of people baptized in recent years:.
7 where do those making up the great crowd come from?
they are being brought together because of what jesus foretold as part of the sign of his presence.
Good times
so at the international convention 235 were baptized.
the attendance was 34k.
that's resents less than 1% its about .6%.
Honesty is not a trait associated with the wtbs there numbers are what ever they want them to be. Look around at all of the branch closures and kingdom hall closures and restructuring. Does it look like growth?
Brainfloss
nathan h. knorr was the third president of the watchtower society.
he was by mentality a clerk, with a fondness for instructing young male brooklyn bethel inductees as to what was the "right handling" of their genitalia.
it goes without saying he was a liar, a fraud, a hypocrite, a swindler, a conman and a thoroughly evil bastard, and let f.franz perpetrate the great 1975 hoax to boost membership, murdering the hopes of millions of elderly victims while so doing.. joseph f. "judge for 4 days" rutherford was the second president of the watchtower society.
Liquor? I didn't even know her ha ha ha
FOCUS said
"That they may eat babies in some congregations is besides the point. Right?"
I believe here that you have misspoken. It is not that they MUST eat babies. They only need eat babies to have microphone privileges.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=3035&site=3.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=3075&site=3.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=3088&site=3.
Focus, I have been reading some of your old posts, they are very well researched and I appriciate your style of calling a spade a spade.
Thanks
Brainfloss
***g93 3/22 5. a fable from india tells of six blind men from indostan who went to see an elephant.
the first one touched its side and said: 'bless me!
but the elephant is very like a wall!
bttt
greetings, dear worldly householder of the birdseed class, i'm a member of the great crowd of other sheep, or jonadabs (who are not marked in the forehead as would have been the case for one of the eternal remnant class of 144,000 whose membership was closed 64 years ago until new light from the great teacher of progressive revelation caused it to be understood that vacancies would from time to time occur), rendering sacred service to the ancient of days in the earthly courtyard of the spiritual temple by following the example of the fine shepherd and engaging as a member of the pioneer class in preaching the good news of the kingdom with the mouth-borne sword of the spirit now the 2,300 symbolic evenings have passed.
we are helping warn those not familiar with the divine name that the second presence of the chief agent of life who returned after being resurrected but not in his own body which was dematerialized into gases and after then being out of action has now already begun, and has in fact been in progress now for 86 years, and that no one else has noticed this totally obvious but wholly invisible event is irrefutable proof both that it is true and that our faith is the one true, all other ones being from their father, satan the devil.
we have a lot of proof to justify this reasonable view, including evidence as yet undiscovered.
bttt
so at the convention, one of the talks was about how all people will speak a single language in the new system.
my ears perked up when i heard at the outset "now, we can't be dogmatic about this" because that immediately makes me think that they're backing away from a previously dogmatic stance.
he went on to say that everyone will be speaking hebrew in the new system because "evidently" (another word that gets my ears to perk up these days) that was what was spoken before the languages were confused at bable.
NO RAIN=NO SUBSTANTIAL RUN OFF WERE DDI BROOK TROUT LIVE?
