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  2014 New Release stuff you might want!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  atlantis just rolled this stuff off the scanner and is eating right now, so i wanted to see if anybody wanted this junk.. 2014, what is the kingdom of god?

  (tract).

  https://www.sendspace.com/file/m3y1tg .

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  NotNew

  Thanks

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  Why are 'most' of the people fighting in the Middle East MEN???

  by NAVYTOWN in

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  2. friends

  it seems that in every war or revolution, 'most' of the participants are men and young boys.

  aside from the occasional female suicide bomber.

  does this have something to do with their religion and/ or cultural traditions?

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  NotNew

  For many generations of men in the USA they wanted to protect loved ones and homeland...yes that included all gender. Men with thought prosess in check will protect women, wives, children... all their loved ones with their lives. Thats not being aggressive it's being responsive...protective Of those less likely to ward off the aggressor.

  ***Re: Why are 'most' of the people fighting in the Middle East MEN??

  This region breeds hate...read the bible it will give some insight as to why...they are motivated by a different set of outcomes.

  ***Another feature of the Bedouin ethos is the law of blood revenge. A much quoted Arab proverb is, “Blood demands blood.” Relatives must avenge the blood of the slain by killing either the actual murderer or one of his relatives. Even when a murderer is apprehended, convicted in a court of law, and executed, it does not fulfill the requirements of blood revenge. One of the relatives of the executed man must die by the hand of one of the victim’s relatives. And, of course, the murdered relative’s blood must be avenged by his relatives. Thus it continues ad infinitum. An Arab man once remarked that “both the Japanese and the Arabs are ready to kill to regain their lost honor; but the Japanese will kill himself, while the Arab will kill somebody else” (cited in ibid ., p. 212).

  Maybe men are expendable?

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  Malaysian flight crash in Ukraine VS Flight 93 in Pennsylvania

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i wonder if anybody else has wondered about the differences between those 2 flights?

  in the malaysian flight that crashed from 30,000 feet high, tons of wreckage, body parts, bodies, documents, etc, all over the place.

  yet in the pa flight 93, just a crater in the ground, no bodies, everything supposedly vaporized.

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  NotNew

  Exactly...

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  GB guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes. How can JW's believe this stuff?

  by integ in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the gb is guilty of the ultimate spiritual crimes.

  blasphemy against god by claiming they "speak for jehovah".

  they said it again recently in an article..that they speak the words of jehovah and we should listen to those words.

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  NotNew

  Education: give it a go... I like many here, we were indoctrinated...Look it up an educate yourself!

  Im not so now... and this is what allows me to see the fallacy in your words!

  We believed because we had nothing else to base belief on! We were told what to believe and death or gods disaproval if other thoughts were to come into our minds. We were made weak minded. But not now!

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  circuit overseer worship

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for over thirty years i observed among jws the phenomenon of co worship/idolatry.

  i, myself, was somewhat guilty of it even though i rather quickly caught on and detected something wrong.. think about the week of the co visit.

  during that week most attention is given to and most thought is about the co. the supposed sovereign of the universe takes a backseat.

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  NotNew

  • Who's guilty? Nobody has the obligation, do they? It's the stupid average people who does so.

  Please don't group "stupid" with ignorance or indoctrinated! Many here were indoctrinated Not STUPID!

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  Dissoi logoi - Jehovah's Witnesses do have the Truth! My Story Part 3

  by objectivetruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i stopped attending meetings over one year ago, and i have thoroughly made it clear to all friends & family that i am opposed to the teachings of jehovah's witnesses, and i cannot support a religion that teaches lies.. i have systematically examined each teaching & practice of the jehovah's witnesses.

  concluding that many are not scriptural or logical.. after a year i have very unexpectedly arrived at another conclusion.

  the jehovah's witnesses do have the truth.

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  NotNew

  First: interpretation is human...not from God! If He does not provide absolute proof then it is not from Him...therefore fallible...that is every human from this standing. IMO

  Fallible:

  1. capable of making mistakes or being erroneous. "experts can be fallible"

     Are humans experts in Gods thoughts? I should be allow to think what He may of been saying...without being liable or labeled "apostate"

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  circuit overseer worship

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for over thirty years i observed among jws the phenomenon of co worship/idolatry.

  i, myself, was somewhat guilty of it even though i rather quickly caught on and detected something wrong.. think about the week of the co visit.

  during that week most attention is given to and most thought is about the co. the supposed sovereign of the universe takes a backseat.

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  NotNew

  Yes ur absolutely correct they are worshiped...there is not another word that best describes the way they are treated! Absolutely worshiped. The km hall is cleaned, preparations are made...the congergation is in a frenzy preparing for the great visit. Well at least some are...and others, with the help of the ones in control of their minds.

  This is repulsive! These men are supposed to be the servants, like Jesus, ready to serve not be served, or feared! The ground they walk on should not be view as hallow or sacred.

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  National newspaper interview with JW's using the JW.org trolley

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a dutch national newspaper (trouw) published an interview with some jw's using the jw.org trolley near the trainstation of utrecht.. the local coordinator of the trolley work acknowledged that many witness are not enthusiastic about preaching.

  it's a wide spread rumor in our organization.. but the witness elders will remind them personally that preaching is nessasery.

  then there is an question asked about the witness selection procedure for the trolley work.. the good looking pioneer sister answered she can imagine the need for selection because nobody would take a book from an old age leaning forward woman without teeth.. g..

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  NotNew

  So its using "sex" to sell place?

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  Are they really that stupid

  by moley in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was recently approached by a couple of borg drones while i was walking my dog, and i thought why not, may plant a seed or two (how wrong was i).

  there was no real logic to what they were saying but as i was in the local park the conversation started to veer to how wonderful nature was and how this was the work of a wonderful creator.

  i did not let on i was a former witness and let them continue with their fairy tale of creation and how the vast multitude of animals shows a loving god at work blah blah blah...... but i digress, the converastion then turned to how evolution was false.. apparently to earth is only a few thousand years old, so i mentioned about the burgess shale, to be met with blank stares.

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  NotNew

  Well...yes!

  I would of been one of them...but not any more. Once decieved...until something wakes u up.

  Take pity on the ones that are under mind control!

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  Do you need a good laugh today?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzrmpsnc3s.

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  NotNew

  Thanks. I needed this!

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