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  I turn my back on it all

  by CruithneLaLuna in

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  friends,.

  in perusing the postings here in the "friends" section, i notice how many of us are still hashing over and rehashing the evils of the organization we were a part of, and how it hurt us, etc.

  i got kinda down reading it.

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  tinkerbell82

  In perusing the postings here in the "Friends" section, I notice how many of us are still hashing over and rehashing the evils of the organization we were a part of, and how it hurt us, etc.

  you know, many of us are doing so for the first time EVER in our lives. it's a necessary step. i wouldnt dare speak for anyone else....but personally, i come here and and talk about stuff that i've never been able to deal with on my own.

  While there is a place for this, and those who feel so inclined are welcome to indulge

  if THIS isnt the place for this "indulgence", then i dont know what is. for me, this is the ONLY place i'm able to do that. i dont have anywhere else. in addition, i hardly see it as self-indulgence when dealing with these issues is a critical component of moving on with life. you may have already reached that point where you have overcome the past. but others here havent gotten there yet, myself included, and to call them 'indulgent' places a stigma on them that they just dont need, imo.
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  question..

  by fried in

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  i have a question.

  i am not a jw but i was in a jw chat room earlier today and had something in my profile regarding a dying angel.

  a few people asked me if i understood the significance of a dead angel and before i could say no, i was kicked out of the room.. i didn't know angels could even die... in any religion.

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  tinkerbell82

  welcome to the forum, fried!! stick around, it'll be quite the educational experience ;)
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  Stupidest thing a JW ever told you

  by Nosferatu in

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  what is the stupidest thing a jw ever told you?

  we all know that they say a lot of stupid things, but what really topped the cake?.

  for me, it was an elder telling me i was progressing really well when my meeting attendance was down and my field service hours were slipping.

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  tinkerbell82

  someone told me once that jehovah would resurrect the dinosaurs in the new system....
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  Why should I be Happy?

  by Maverick in

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  i had a good day today.

  i love my job, still some days are just great, and today was one of those days!

  all day i was in a great mood and working like a bi-polar in a manic state.

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  tinkerbell82

  :) i'm so glad you're doing well :)
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  Christianity promotes a helpless victim mentality...

  by logansrun in

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  i'm going to be a man of few words here.

  christianity, in it's truest, fundamentalist form, promotes an unhealthy and non-productive victim mentality.

  the christian feels helpless on his own -- condemned by sin and absolutely unworthy.

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  tinkerbell82

  My concern is the fundamentalist Christian

  and if i had read your initial post a little more carefully i would have gleaned that helpful little bit of information...sorry! my mistake :)
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  Christianity promotes a helpless victim mentality...

  by logansrun in

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  i'm going to be a man of few words here.

  christianity, in it's truest, fundamentalist form, promotes an unhealthy and non-productive victim mentality.

  the christian feels helpless on his own -- condemned by sin and absolutely unworthy.

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  bradley -

  i certainly dont want to lock horns with you in a philosophical debate of this nature...you win, i concede! your post simply made me think of my family. my grandmother and aunts are your run-of-the-mill christians...they have no real interest in discovering the ultimate truth of life, theyre not on a quest for knowledge. they simply believe in god and feel comforted by that belief. any time i try to challenge their beliefs with factual evidence suggesting theyre wrong, their response is that they believe what they believe regardless, and it keeps them happy. so long as theyre not foisting their beliefs onto me, which they dont, i'm fine with it and i'm happy that it works for them. to strip that belief away from them would be cruel.
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  did you know ?

  by frenchbabyface in

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  population on earth (figures in 1999).

  if we compare the population to a hundred people in a little town ... this is how it would look like.. 57 asian .

  21 europeans .

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  tinkerbell82

  thanks for that post, frenchbabyface. i printed it out and thumbtacked it to my cubicle. next time i fel like whining that my job is boring, i'll have that wake-up call sitting right there in front of me. ;)
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  Christianity promotes a helpless victim mentality...

  by logansrun in

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  i'm going to be a man of few words here.

  christianity, in it's truest, fundamentalist form, promotes an unhealthy and non-productive victim mentality.

  the christian feels helpless on his own -- condemned by sin and absolutely unworthy.

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  tinkerbell82

  let me preface this by saying i am not a christian, and i do not claim to have anywhere near the theological or philosophical knowledge that you or indeed many of the posters here have. this is just my two cents.

  you said:

  They are powerless against their weaknesses. . Everywhere in the New Testament you see it: victimology, helplessness, weakness, guilt, shame, defenselessness. .

  do you contend that christianity creates these feelings in its 'victims'? because i've felt all of these things for most of my life, in a way that is totally unconnected to christianity. i'm not trying to refute what youre saying, but simply get a better understanding of it, i suppose.

  All this is said to magically disappear because God or the son of God died -- himself a victim

  even if it is just a fairy tale....so what? if i'm desparate for comfort in my life and the thought that i've been saved by an act of grace or 'victimization' brings exactly that to me, what's the harm? maybe having a security blanket isnt all that noble, but if my delusion isnt detrimental to anyone else then why bother bursting my bubble?

  just a thought. it's not for everyone, it's not for me, but maybe it makes some people feel less alone, and they can keep it as far as i'm concerned.
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  Were you given the tools to survive?

  by Swan in

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  i feel like i was never given the tools to survive.

  i feel short-changed and ill-equipped to handle life.

  in many ways i still feel like a child.

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  tinkerbell82

  (((hug))) i know exactly what you mean. sometimes i feel like everyones' brains are 1000 piece puzzles, and my box only came with 999. i'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks this way. thanks for sharing; your post made me feel a lot better. :)
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  What was your worst/best experience in field service?

  by obiwan in

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  i will have to say mine is a worst/best experience.

  i was out in serviceon a saturday with my mother of all things, we went to a door knocked, and this awesome looking 16 or 17 year old girl opens the door wearing nothing but a dress shirt.

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  one time i was trying to place a tract with this old guy who was watering his lawn, and i guess i was too persistant for his taste, because he squirted me with his hose and told me to get off his property. mind you i was probably 11 at the time. i was mortified! but thankful as well, because i had to go home after that =D