folks, i am going to confess something that has been bugging me for a while: i think i'm abnormal.
now, i know what you are thinking, "he's such a bright guy who posts such intelligent stuff.
" yeah.
((((Bradley)))) read up on anxiety disorder too. Most people think it means just panic attacks, but one of the major symptoms is procratination or avoidance of things (including tasks) that you are anxious about. Many people with this type of depression will go to great lengths to occupy their time with other matters, so they don't have to deal with necessities or obligations.
I'm sorry you're going through this. I hope you figure it out.
Odrade
the chick upstairs is loud.
she came home and when she walked by my door she banged on it as loud as she could, waking up me and emma.. it is 1:15 in the morning.
called the cops i am sick of her crap.
Well, one of the times I called CPS, the police showed up, and they were all standing around naked with animal feces on the floor. (I was peeking out my window for the show.) Anyways, a young cop showed up for the call. He couldn't have been more than 23 or so, and only about 5'10" in his fancy police boots, maybe 170lbs. He got quite an eyeful, and it was clear to him he wasn't going to be "wrastling" anyone to the ground. HA. The little boy was running around dragging one of the pets in a huge blanket, probably covered up any beating marks. That cop couldn't get out of there fast enough. Social services did come around a few times, but I guess they have bigger fish to fry. (Well, more important anyways. .)
O
just for fun!
cut & paste the questions & answer underneath!.
1.what time do you wake up in the morning on weekdays?.
1.WHAT TIME DO YOU WAKE UP IN THE MORNING ON WEEKDAYS?
depends, work-days, 6:15, other days: 8:30 or so2. IF YOU COULD EAT LUNCH WITH ONE FAMOUS PERSON, WHO WOULD IT BE?
before you got baptized, what were the books that you studied with your bible study conductor?
the "essential" one that i studied was the live forever book.
when i was a child, i had to study my book of bible stories, great teacher, and your youth (twice).
does anyone remember the old "Paradise lost" book?
Yep, my dad studied that one with me as a kid.
O
the chick upstairs is loud.
she came home and when she walked by my door she banged on it as loud as she could, waking up me and emma.. it is 1:15 in the morning.
called the cops i am sick of her crap.
Oh man, apartments. Several years back, when I was still single, I rented this little "efficiency" apartment-which basically meant it had a seperate bedroom, but the "kitchen" was on one end of the living room. The whole apartment was about 450 sq.ft. in downtown. The building was sandwiched between two industrial warehouses, with all the accompanying truck traffic. I lived on the backside of the building though, and looked out at a groomed sports field. (There, that should be enough info for dubbie lurkers to ID me. Wait, there's more...)
Neighbors. One of my neighbors was a goldminer. No joke. He was also a little cracked, and would come hang out on my porch and read my horoscope. He asked my birthdate/time, and did my entire chart. He was in love with my cat, and called her Ms. Thang With the High Heel Shoes. He dressed in camoflauge in the evening, and would do "reconnaisance missions" around the building every night between 2 and 3 am. He carried night-vision binoculars, and weapons in case he came across any "undesirables" dealing drugs in the neighboring field.
I had some really nice neighbors too, a lesbian couple who lived downstairs. They tore out the carpet when they moved into their apartment and discovered beautiful hardwood floors, which they refinished. The girlfriend of the lead singer for Pink Martini also lived in the building, so the band would come hang out in our little courtyard (when they were getting along.) There was another sweetheart of a girl that I worked with who lived there too.
Eventually though, we were all driven out of the building (except for reconnaisance mission guy) by the arrival of P** and J**. P** moved in first. She was about 19, and had a little boy about a year old. They rented the tiny studio on the side of the building. It was less than 200 sq.ft. P** did nothing but stand in the doorway and yell at her boy. Sometimes she "spanked" him. I could hear the blows from inside my apartment, with the TV on. After a few months, J** moved in with her. They liked to scream a lot, and hit each other a lot. They also decided they didn't like to wear clothing. P*** was about 6'2", and weighed about 400lbs. J** was about 6'4" and probably pushed 450. Jr was 2, about 3-1/2 ft tall already, and probably weighed close to 60 lbs. All those people in 200 sq. ft. Naked. As the day they were born. With the door open. Did I mention the giant picture window that made up the front wall of their apartment? Oh yeah. Sometimes they would wrap a small (very small) towel around the vital parts and go sit in the courtyard. Once they had a barbeque out there, wearing a sheet.
Time passed. The little studio acquired: a tank of goldfish, a bunny, three kittens, several guinea pigs, a hamster who lived in a box covered with duct tape, and a dog. In 200 sq. ft. Summer came, so did the cockroaches. I'm really not sure what happened after that... I moved. But that's another story...
Odrade
some may remember me (possibly not).
i am a former elder of 10 years, all my family are still in ?the truth?
and all the males are elders in various levels of responsibility.
Sincere, my father is just like this. I keep thinking that if I could re-activate his scientific mind somehow, I might be able to get him to see the reality of the WTS. But he is so attached to his "one big truth" that I am reluctant to even try.
O
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"which single incident do you consider to be most responsible for you leaving the the org"
Bleh, SFJim. What a disgusting story, that the "loving brothers" would use a movie to engage in a power struggle like that. They must have been already looking for a way to get you. I'm disgusted, but not surprised.
For me, there were many things that made me leave, although at the time I didn't know I would never go back. I was just staying away from the meetings and feeling bad and guilty about it. The one specific thing that finally lifted the guilt for me, was finding out about the Mexico/Malawi incident. Also at the same time, I learned that the reason the JWs in Mexico were not allowed to sing and pray at the meetings was NOT because of persecution, but was due to legal manipulation so the WTS could own property.
I remember very clearly talking about how the brothers were being persecuted and stopped from fully worshipping Jehovah in Mexico. I also remember clearly the night they made the announcement that the Mexican Government had "finally granted our Brothers in Mexico the freedom to worship Jehovah with song and prayer." We were ecstatic! It was such a victory for JWs that we finally had that freedom in Mexico.
Later, after quitting the meetings, I found out that it was all legal b.s. that kept the mexican JWs from prayer. That it was the fault of the WTS, because they wanted to own property. That our OWN ORGANIZATION had hampered their expressions of praise and worship for MATERIALISTIC reasons. I was so angry, but that was the end of my guilt. Lies, lies, lies.
I want to add: I'm the last person that anyone ever expected to leave the Org. I did everything by the book, carried it to its farthest application, and was a true believer. If I can get out, anyone can.
Odrade
http://silentlambs.com/newsletter/newsletteritem.cfm?sendoutid=153
newsletter
a few letters to newspaper on jw elder molester
Good, it's about time newspapers start printing letters to the ed like this. Bad PR for the WTS is probably one of the stronger weapons we have. After all, they do have an image as "Jehovah's Clean People" to maintain.
Odrade
i have the best of teddy pendergrass in mine.
i was just in the mood for some sweet mellow music.. what about you?.
dimples
Tommy Castro
so, the society is still using the phrase "spiritual paradise" ?
( dec wt).
communist countries ( you remember, the ones that collapsed?
Well, I'm glad I didn't get shot. I'm pretty happy right now. And even if my family (not "and friends" cause I pretty much don't have any JW friends anymore) decide they are obligated to shun me, my life is really full. I'll deal fine.
No shooting.
O
