""Instead of complaining about someone not inviting you over, you need to ask "How busy am I in the ministry?", "What new topic can I consider for my personal study?". The congregation is not a social club, it is about accomplishing your ministry and saving lives. The world is full of recreation and look where it has gotten them, knocked up, drugged up and hopeless.""
Must have been a manuscript, because I vividly remember the same turn of words a couple of years before we left, in a talk given probably back around 1999/2000.
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34Being new we invited 30 brothers over for dinner. We got an invite once?!
by Witness 007 inwhats the deal.
i moved to a new congregation and wanted to slowly each weekend invite all the brothers over to get to know them.
the drill was we had a barbie with red wine and music.
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Being new we invited 30 brothers over for dinner. We got an invite once?!
by Witness 007 inwhats the deal.
i moved to a new congregation and wanted to slowly each weekend invite all the brothers over to get to know them.
the drill was we had a barbie with red wine and music.
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Same experience. Many invites given, only one or two returned. Ever. Another thing that happened frequently is we would invite people, confirm the invite (the day before or sometimes in the morning, "yes, yes, we'll be there, looking forward to it,") then they would just not show up, or they would call and cancel 15 minutes before they were scheduled to arrive. No emergency, just not important I guess. Eventually we quit asking. Then we quit.
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best/favorite Monty Python sketch
by stillajwexelder inaustralian beer drinking philosophers is one of mine
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LION TAMER!!! :D
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Another Child Porno JW Freak - Caught in Massive Sting
by skeeter1 inhttp://www.theage.com.au/national/jail-for-dj-caught-in-child-porn-sting-20081203-6qo7.html.
jail for dj caught in child porn sting.
paul millar december 4, 2008 a sketch of andrew van rossum.
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I was just commenting that there is no suggestion that there was a cover-up in the congregation, not regarding the severity of the crime. There's so much the JW's DO cover-up, there's no use in giving them an "out" by making baseless accusations.
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Another Child Porno JW Freak - Caught in Massive Sting
by skeeter1 inhttp://www.theage.com.au/national/jail-for-dj-caught-in-child-porn-sting-20081203-6qo7.html.
jail for dj caught in child porn sting.
paul millar december 4, 2008 a sketch of andrew van rossum.
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Scully, it would be a good question in another situation, but the article makes no presumption of molestation, and no direct victims in contact with the convicted; he was looking at child porn. It is possible that his family and the congregation really had no idea about this.
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If you could
by John Doe innot merely ban religion, but cause people to believe in only sensible, testable things, thereby quashing anything related to religion, would you do it?
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No. Because if you are truly going to defend freedom of speech, freedom of religion, et al, you will have to occasionally defend things that you personally find despicable. So although I find it despicable that some people worship a god that they believe will kill 6 billion people "very soon now," I recognize that the same freedom that allows them freedom of worship, also allows me the freedom to believe in my concept of "sensible, testable things."
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Elder asks me why we quit... (Long)
by Odrade inin this thread i mentioned having a long chat with an elder last summer.
i didn't realize i had never posted the story, so here it is.. last summer (when i went to buy my new camera lens) i ran into one of my favorite jws at the photography shop.
he was buying a camera bag for his new dslr, and i saw him, went up and greeted him, hugged him.
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Thanks all. I'm not feeling guilty for speaking frankly with him. It's just that I remember what a state of turmoil my life was thrown into once I realized that the "truth" wasn't true. Disillusionment coupled with depression is a dangerous thing. If our conversation had any part in his spiral down, it was minor. Over the years, he had seen a lot as an elder, as a congregation member. He and members of his family had been treated cruelly by elders and traveling overseers because of trying to stand up for what was right.
Still, he continued to believe it was "the truth," even up until my last conversation with him. He urged me to just hold on for one or two more years, then it would be over and Jehovah would fix everything. That was about 18 months ago. I guess he just couldn't hang on anymore. I know it wasn't my fault, and given the opportunity, I would speak just as honestly again. He deserved that kind of respect from me, and I regarded him as a friend. -
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How many here have been to Morning Worship at Bethel?
by BonaFide inin bethels throughout the world, morning worship starts at 7 am sharp.
in new york, there are closed-circuit televisions with a large digital clock display, including the seconds.
morning worship takes place in the big dining rooms so you are given breakfast after, everyone has an assigned seat.
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I've been. Boring. My table manners passed muster, but I think I may have reached across somebody for the milk. I was at table with some bigwigs, so there was no rushing off to work after prayer. We sat back down and "enjoyed" a very leisurely breakfast.
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Elder asks me why we quit... (Long)
by Odrade inin this thread i mentioned having a long chat with an elder last summer.
i didn't realize i had never posted the story, so here it is.. last summer (when i went to buy my new camera lens) i ran into one of my favorite jws at the photography shop.
he was buying a camera bag for his new dslr, and i saw him, went up and greeted him, hugged him.
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UPDATE: I just got a phone call that this brother committed suicide two weeks ago. I will be attending the memorial service this Saturday. I can't help but wonder if our conversation had some small part in this terrible tragedy. I hope not. My husband and I both really cared for this man and his wife, and considered them friends, in spite of the distance that our leaving the WTS created.
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Classical/Spanish Guitar Virtuosos
by BurnTheShips inissac albeniz played by john williams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeffbut3i6a&feature=relatedjohn williams again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyhf9keidscand the man that brought the intrument into the light, andres segovia.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsw2iqg1mfg&feature=related.
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