AGUEST, Help me to understand why a good person who is innocent of wrongdoing has to die for the wrongdoer.How is justice paid when the wrongdoer is the one who should pay for his wrongdoing not the innocent one.And if the wrong doer is flawed from the start,how can he be expected to not do wrong.If in sin he was conceived, and his inclination is to do bad all the time,and if his own heart is desperate and treacherous,then isn't it an injustice to put him to death when he was programmed that way by his maker because of his forefather who did the wrong and not him.When a person is given a start with three strikes against him, how is he expected in all fairness to not do wrong and so lose the gift of life through no fault of his own.Wouldn't it be fair to let each one have a perfect start, then if they willingly do wrong let that one pay for his own badness.Then you would not have to have an innocent person die for that one. Blueblades.
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Is Jesus God's Master Worker?
by Tower Man ini have a simulated discussion with chris, a christian and john, a witness on my web site.
they discuss whether jesus is really a master worker.
see what you think.. http://www.towertotruth.net/masterworkerpt1.htm.
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Aaarrrrrgggghhhhhh!
by Mimilly inthis.... is a scream thread.
for those who've had to up to 'here' with all the fighting and mudslinging.... post your screams here.
visiting the forum lately has been arduous, trying, painful, disheartening... .
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Brothers flanders, prove to us that the faithful and discreet slave is who you say it is.Lets start with Charles t.Russell.Where was the slave when he was on the scene. Why didnt he go to that slave then?You got your work cut out for you.Blueblades
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two questions
by Blueblades inquestion #1.it was onced taught by the wt.that the proof that life only exists on earth and not anywhere else in the universe is the fact that this is the place where satan raised the issue of universal sovereignty.and that if there was life elsewhere he would of raised it there.also,this is the only place in the universe that jesus died to settle that issue.my question is,if this is true, then ,is evolution and life elsewhere a non-issue.question #2. god created spirit creatures some went bad others did not.god created fleshly creatures some went bad others did not.my question is,why do good creatures in the spirit realm see god live wihout any growing old and dying.while good fleshly creatures grow old and die.is it fair that good spirit creatures are immune,and good fleshly creatures suffer horribly.the answer of inherited imperfection is not sufficient because its not the fault of the good fleshly creature.i realized that i prefaced both questions with a premise then asked the questions.if my first question is not true, and many believe it is not,just as many believe it is.then evolution and life elsewhere is possible.as to my second question i am asking is, are the two kinds of life that god has giving fair to fleshly creatures.
thank you for your thoughts .
blueblades.
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Question #1.It was onced taught by the wt.That the proof that life only exists on earth and not anywhere else in the universe is the fact that this is the place where satan raised the issue of universal sovereignty.and that if there was life elsewhere he would of raised it there.Also,this is the only place in the universe that Jesus died to settle that issue.My question is,if this is true, then ,is evolution and life elsewhere a non-issue.Question #2. GOD created spirit creatures some went bad others did not.GOD created fleshly creatures some went bad others did not.My question is,why do good creatures in the spirit realm see God live wihout any growing old and dying.While good fleshly creatures grow old and die.Is it fair that good spirit creatures are immune,and good fleshly creatures suffer horribly.The answer of inherited imperfection is not sufficient because its not the fault of the good fleshly creature.I realized that i prefaced both questions with a premise then asked the questions.If my first question is not true, and many believe it is not,just as many believe it is.Then evolution and life elsewhere is possible.As to my second question i am asking is, are the two kinds of life that God has giving fair to fleshly creatures. Thank you for your thoughts . Blueblades
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"Updating" of JW Books
by reagan_oconnor in::i'm not 100% sure which forum to post this in, so if it needs to be moved, please feel free::
one thing i always questioned was why the jw literature was ever updated.
if the organization is 'directed by the holy spirit' then why did they need a new version of the 'scripture inspired' book?
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Dont forget that you can still place those older books in the field.The october km, under the announcement section page 7 says the offer for jan.2003 isany book published prior to 1988 can be offered in the field.Much that has been printed in those books are no longer is taught as current truth.why do many of them have only192 pages.????? Blueblades
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CoC on Hold for Me
by out4good3 ingot a copy of crisis of conscious 2nd ed.
on hold for me at a library.
will most likely be picking it up tommorrow after i get off from work.
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Out4good3, it will capture your heart and mind.I recommend you start from its opening page and you will not be able to put it down.It will give you a whole new outlook on what goes on behind closed doors that effect the lives of millions of people,and for many it has had a liberating effect and at the same time a deep penetrating inciting effect. Blueblades
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JW's are #1
by BrotherFlanders inwe will stamp out all of you apostates and worldy people.
i hate apostates and worldly people!
jw's #1!!!!
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Blueblades
NED,JUDE 1:23 Snatch them out of the fire. You have your work cut out for you in this verse.Blueblades
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Former Elders Please Check IN
by jst2laws ini noticed quite a few former elders commenting on the thread:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37801&site=3&page=1
i thought it was amusing that about 20 percent of the bethelites in my department at bethel have left the organization.
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Been and still am in for 32 yrs.Served in many positions .Am former elder. BLUEBLADES.
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HOUR OF DARKNESS
by Blueblades injim rizoli, larc,farkel, please comment on darek barefoot's book "jw.and the hour of darkness".do you think there is any connection with pat's accusation againt ted jaracz.its about occult subversion and blind faith in the wt.society.there are many pictures in different publications from the society that originate with the occult.
( sorry about the caps.
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JJRIZO,PAT has nothing to do with the hour of darkness book written by darek barefoot.My question had to do with whether or not there was a connection between this documentation about the occult and the behavior of some in the wt. society.More specific was, if her accusation proves to be true about TED JARACZ then it just might explain alot about the bigger picture which is too much to enumerate here.However even if the accusations are not true, there is much harm being done of which there is an accountability to be had.I do agree with you that we must be cautious and yet we also must give those who have been abused a voice THAT MUST BE HEARD. BLUEBLADES
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HOUR OF DARKNESS
by Blueblades injim rizoli, larc,farkel, please comment on darek barefoot's book "jw.and the hour of darkness".do you think there is any connection with pat's accusation againt ted jaracz.its about occult subversion and blind faith in the wt.society.there are many pictures in different publications from the society that originate with the occult.
( sorry about the caps.
)thanks for thoughts on this subject.
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TR,I Really am not comparing you with anyone else or anyone else with you.ITS just that they were answering JIM RIZOLI's question on some concerns for silent lambs and TED JARACZ.. I feel that the hour of darkness documents a connection with the occult and the wt.IT could explain much about the sexual abuse going on in the higher ups, if the accusations are to be founded as true. i wanted some input on this matter thats all.BLUEBLADES
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HOUR OF DARKNESS
by Blueblades injim rizoli, larc,farkel, please comment on darek barefoot's book "jw.and the hour of darkness".do you think there is any connection with pat's accusation againt ted jaracz.its about occult subversion and blind faith in the wt.society.there are many pictures in different publications from the society that originate with the occult.
( sorry about the caps.
)thanks for thoughts on this subject.
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DJ,Yes i know about GREBER and his wife.I recommend that you get the book and read it .The HOUR OF DARKNESS,opens up a whole other side to the wt.However its not the whole story.Its just another piece to the big picture.I was trying to find out if the hour of darkness documentation had a link to PAT's accusation against TED JARACZ. Again im not saying it does, just asking for some input on the connection if any. BLUEBLADES.