I love it data dog!
Dwain
among all of the other changes recently, there have been broad hints that the biggest change(s) are yet to come.
an instruction has appeared on the elders only part of jw.org to set aside 15 minutes on the sept 1 service meeting with further details to follow.
of course it could just be another load of hot air, but it seems a strange thing to do after making a fuss about all of the service meeting parts this month being focussed on the kingdom (all of the parts for wb sept 1 have material - no local needs get out) when i hear more i'll post details..
I love it data dog!
Dwain
the annual meeting of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses will be in october 2014.. .. in november 2013, just after the last one they published this now famous statement in the 15th of november 2013 watchtower page 16 paragraph 17 says:.
"at that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.".
They are already pushing publishers to download everything they need if they have what's needed to do it with!
My wifes aunt is always the very first in line to order anything new, except stuff for the blind! She's had internet service for years now, kniws how to download and use everything jw related, but was still getting the mags on cd's and everything else offered. It made her MAD, after an elder found out she knew how to do and use it all, and he told her to stop ordering all that stuff! She is a HORDER, my wife and her mom, have to go over and dig her place out every few years to keep her from getting kicked out! The last time, they found 15 new bibles never opened, and five new delux bibles. She now has to check with an elder before ordering anything! She is also a TIGHT WAD, so most likely, never gave a dime in return!
Dwain
i wonder if anyone else has had this experience or know of others who have.
when i was disfellowshipped, i approached another disfellowshipped person after the memorial celebration and asked him over for some refreshments and conversation.
he turned down my invitation saying that the elders had told him that he could not even talk to other disfellowshipped persons unless and until both he and they were reinstated!
In many some congregation, it will be one of the things they ask about, if your asking to be reinstated. And like Da.Furious said, if your wanting back in, then your association, comes into play!
Dwain
this is a quote of a quote taken from anthoney mathenia:.
" for organizations like the watchtower, absolute control of their message is paramount.
it will not even allow its own adherents to spread their good news online.
The site seems to be down now!
Dwain
after going through all the processes of how they appointed elders in the past they say this:.
"the elders in turn would inform the newly appointed men of their appointment, asking them if they were willing and actually qualified to accept the assignment.
so after qualifying the man you ask him if he is qualified.. .
Over the course of 20 some years I was appointed 3 times, I turned it down each time. I never felt I had any kind of real training to take on all the responsibility that came with the position!
Dwain
after going through all the processes of how they appointed elders in the past they say this:.
"the elders in turn would inform the newly appointed men of their appointment, asking them if they were willing and actually qualified to accept the assignment.
so after qualifying the man you ask him if he is qualified.. .
After holy Spirit has anointed him, they then ask if he qualified, and if they have done anything to disqualify themselves!
Dwain
an article in the sydney morning herald:.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/father-denies-children-inheritance-unless-they-quit-jehovahs-witnesses-and-become-catholics-20140810-102egl.html#ixzz39yziuuvf.
"from beyond the grave, father-of-four patrick carroll continued a five-decade crusade to steer his children away from being active jehovah's witnesses and into catholicism.. mr carroll wrote into his will that his adult children were not to receive any inheritance unless they met two conditions: attend his funeral and become catholics within three months of his death.. mr carroll died in april 2012. his children attended the funeral but they did not become catholics and challenged the condition in the nsw supreme court in a bid to still receive their share of his estate.. but justice francois kunc last week ruled that mr carroll was entitled to place such conditions on his will.. the court heard that mr carroll's motivation was not so much about imposing his own beliefs but rather the fact he never approved of his children becoming jehovah's witness.. the court heard that mr carroll did not raise his children as catholics, neither he or they had attended church services when they were young and he did not enroll them in catholic schools.. but when he split from their mother lillian in 1959 she became a jehovah's witness and over the next decade the couple's four children, robyn, paulene, anthony and susan, were baptised as jehovah's witnesses.. mr carroll never approved of "their adherence to that faith", the court heard.. "[lillian's] conversion to that faith enraged mr carroll, who for the rest of his life continued to express his very strong objections to lillian's and the children's member of that faith," justice kunc said in his judgement.. the court was told that all four of his children remain active members of their congregation.. in his will, written in december 2011, four months before he died, mr carroll left more than a third of his estate to his four children "dependent upon them becoming baptised into the catholic church within a period of three months from the date of my death and such gifts are also subject to and dependent my children attending my funeral.".
I know of two different JW's that wrote there dfed kids out of their wills, instead left it all to the borg!
Dwain
i took my family for a weekend trip to a lake in oklahoma a few weeks ago.
the area is right at the end of where the "trail of tears" (i don't know if human atrocities should be in paretheses, italics, or underlined.
yes, i have a dark sense of humor.
Hey do you live in Oklahoma? We just went camping by Stroud Lake a couple weeks ago.
Dwain
i saw on another forum that the trademark application for the 'jw.org' logo had been denied by the trademark office.
it is too similar to the logo of another company.
there is an appeals process that presumably gives the watchtower a chance to get the decision reversed.
There is another publishing company named JW Publishing, jw.borg is also a publishing company, and would be steping on JW Publishing's trade mark!
Dwain
"is it possible that many of the organizational sexual policies began when (in the late 70s early 80s?
) some of the people at bethel and even some of the gb were found out to be visiting gay bars?
i did hear about some bethelites visiting gay bars or engaging in homosexual acts in the late 70s and early 80s and were asked to leave bethel.
Wow, totally blown away!
Dwain