Posts by galaxie

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An important difference between atheists and true believers
by Hortensia in
1. social
2. current
true believers, whether christian, muslim or whatever, want to convert you, they want you to believe what they do, and they're willing to go to extremes to make it happen.

atheists don't really care what you believe, and don't go out of their way to convert someone.. http://ow.ly/vn1jz an example of what believers in power do to suppress any difference in thought.

http://ow.ly/vraeo an example of why believers want to suppress different ideas (because they can't win in a fair fight, that's why).
galaxie

FHN;...its not really the fact that someone doesn't accept your thoughtful conclusions, but more that as part of a religious discussion forum all our conclusions are open to lets say friendly scrutiny.

If any of our conclusions about a subject are without any factual evidential basis, then its basically no better than guess work.

Just to say I believe such and such because I feel like it(especially supernatural beliefs) stops a proper reasoned debate in its tracks, hence causing frustration which can then spill over into negativity.

So when you say thoughtful conclusion it is the thought process which may be questioned, which sometimes offends people.

Wouldn't you agree explaining how one comes to a conclusion is a valid questioning process even if it makes one uncomfortable

Best wishes
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When You Look Back At The History of Jehovah's Witnesses/Russelites---Has Anything Really Changed?
by minimus in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
they have been, from their inception, a sect that was considered different from mainstream christianity.

they loved being different.

they bragged about being "persecuted.
galaxie

The paradox is they have HAD to change and in doing so they somehow remain the same deluded bunch.

The changes or ( new light ) the faithful are obliged to accept, because the power house GB KNOW that even the rank & file would have sussed something was not adding up regarding their predictions. And so each new corner they turn morphs into a never ending circle.

No wonder many here have said ;..Enough!! Let me off this conning coil.
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Dawkins-The Greatest Show on Earth
by KateWild in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
as many may be aware.

i don't like the man.

but i have chosen to review the first chapter of his book.. chapter 1... only a theory?.
galaxie

Hi kate,I think only Dawkins really knows why he would call churchgoers uneducated. I suspect he is not being personal, but generalising which in the context of debate is understandable and of course as you have said there are churchgoers who would fit into the catagory of ' uneducated ' if against evidence to the contrary they cling on to the creationst line.

I think its more of a personality clash ie some folks just rub us up the wrong way.I don't think he'll ever be your pal?

Personaly I find him quite entertaining through the serious facade.

Best wishes
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How many here (believers) believe in the Hell fire doctrine and why??
by jam in
1. jw
2. friends
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.

"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.

"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
galaxie

If only the delusion of hell was temporary. For some unfortunately it is apermanant fixture of their loving ? God .How sad
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How many here (believers) believe in the Hell fire doctrine and why??
by jam in
1. jw
2. friends
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.

"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.

"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
galaxie

Ubm the belief that pigs can fly was never a fundemental christian belief,

Burning in hellfire eternal torment is still taught and believed

Non believers and believers alike are surely entitled to comment comment on any topic?

It is after all an open forum

Best wishes
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There Was No First Human
by cofty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this excellent 4 minute video will help to clear up a few common misunderstandings regarding evolution.. ....
galaxie

Cantleave;...I think the middle bluey red may be a grey area!!

Kate .Isuspect you agree with the premise of the video.Would you agree also there are many many churchgoers who still believe man was created by god from the soil of the earth ( literally ) perhaps these are the types Dawkins refers to, I would have to agree with him.
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Mark Sanderson is NOT an overlapper..
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i had the opportunity to speak with 5 elders at once recently.

they were all gibbering about jw stuff, so i asked , who was the first fds?!?!

it must have been rutherford, right??
galaxie

Emeth;...Of course there will be an end in terms of our planet and human existane, if nothing else our dying sun will see to that

I doubt ole freddie boy will have anything to do with it .

Read on if you must. Who is your saviour jehovah or speedy fred!?? GET REAL!!
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Mark Sanderson is NOT an overlapper..
by DATA-DOG in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i had the opportunity to speak with 5 elders at once recently.

they were all gibbering about jw stuff, so i asked , who was the first fds?!?!

it must have been rutherford, right??
galaxie

Emeth;...Fred pearce must have been inspired by the back door method. GET REAL!!!
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How many here (believers) believe in the Hell fire doctrine and why??
by jam in
1. jw
2. friends
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.

"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.

"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
galaxie

Sarahsmile;..I hope as a prson you understand and can feel compassion and love, perhaps you have revised your thinking concerning the hideous concept of eternal torture in hellfire.

Perhaps this is why you have not responded to Cofty. I hope so.

Love and human kindness to you.
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Why are JWs so afraid of apostates?
by Magnum in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
why are jws so afraid of apostates?

their view of apostates seems to be out of the realm of the ordinary, the natural.

its as if the words of apostates are supernatual or spiritistic as if apostates are some kind of jedi knights who can slightly wave their hands or twitch their eyes and bring one under a spell.
galaxie

Emeth;...I wouldn't disagree with you, but I know the WT publications discouraged it, making a lot of JWs fearful of it. Looks like a lot took some time to accept it's usage.

Why would the society discourage and then encourage in such a short period of time?

Very confusing for the bros and sisters don't you think?

Now with promotion of JW.ORG it is ok?

Why put your faith in such childish silliness?

Best wishes