from ancient accounts hostile to christinity, we can learn the following:.
jesus was born and lived in palestine.
he was born, supposedly, to a virgin and had an earthly father who was a carpenter.
Perry I commend you for seeking evidence for jesus and what you attribute to him.
Looks like further investigation is necessary, or are you convinced by your research so far?
If so you are gullible and must have an underlying reason to base your life on such second /third hand accounts from ancients with an ancient uneducated agenda.
You are living in the 21st cent is it not time to wise up.
Best wishes.
this is my first post here.. i was raised in "the truth", and am an ex-bethelite who worked in brooklyn for several years back in the 90's.
a few years after i left bethel, i started to become disillusioned after doing research about the society and reading crisis of conscience (i know..i wasn't supposed to do that lol).
i eventually stopped attending meetings and going out in service.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Those who use the white stick of religion , theism, evangelical deluded self comfort are indeed blind to rational evidential thinking.
All strengh to those who combat such supernatural non...sense.
this is my first post here.. i was raised in "the truth", and am an ex-bethelite who worked in brooklyn for several years back in the 90's.
a few years after i left bethel, i started to become disillusioned after doing research about the society and reading crisis of conscience (i know..i wasn't supposed to do that lol).
i eventually stopped attending meetings and going out in service.
Hi cofty;...I take my hat off to you sir, although I wonder on a personal note how you reconcile your many years as a theist and how this has affected your life coming to your stanpoint now.
For myself I was a believer but in terms of my life so far only for a relatively short time until my early 20s when I can say I was definately free of belief in god.
I experienced some emotional trauma in coming to terms with the fact that I had wasted so many years which to be brief could have been more beneficial / productive, so for yourself to have spent so many more years and may I say in a more comprehensive capacity must have impacted on you quite considerably.
Anyway as I say I take my hat off to you.
Best wishes.
i have heard people say: if space exploration proves extraterrestrials do exist, that would be the end of the bible (which teaches earth is the only place there is life).. i feel this will not happen, because already science proved certain views reflected in the bible are wrong:.
1) joshua stopped the sun to win the war (joshua 10:3).
2) satanthinking earth is flattook jesus to the top of the mountain so that all kingdoms of the earth could be visible to the eyes (to person like jesus, just saying is enoughwhy need a vision of all kingdoms of the earth.
If extraterrestrials don't exist, isn't the bible just a human inspired book ?
is the creature in the paradise lost book inside cover, the loch ness monster?.
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Definately !! I cant believe someone else has the spirit inspired insight to have realised this.
If anyone wants proof it exists you only need consult the watchtower.
Believe brother believe, do not even consider other explanations they have satans fingerprints all over them.
Go nessie our salvation is in your hands.
hi folks,.
the rank and file is now in a strange situation.. it is clear that the jw leadership is in for a huge change.
the type / anti type change makes clear that they make a u-turn.. it's clear that with this changes the current doctrine are temporary.
Hindsight makes it all fit!... I'm a convert yippee !!!!
i cannot wrap my mind around the fact that there is jw tv.
being a born in and living most of my life hearing how tv evangelism is wrong and lazy preaching yet seeing this unfold solidifies this religion as a cult!.
i remember back when i began my fade a few years ago i told my brother during an argument how this religion is just like any other religion in that its bull.
They can feel jehovah's guiding hand in the studio!!
You really can't make this stuff up!!
Isn't this venture just absolute proof they are indeed as much a part of the world as the rest.
They have indeed succumbed to the satanic influence of the internet they had previously warned against.
A big one up for jehovah's mortal enemy.
does the bible have a central theme?.
there seems to be a general consensus throughout christian religions that there is a consistent theme throughout the bible.
the seeming evidence of a theme coming from a collection of books written by over 40 different authors over a period of 1500 years is what givse credence to the claim that the bible is an inspired literary work.
Take 40,50,66 even, murder mystery books by different authors written at different times.
You wanna find a central theme eh? Let me think! That's it! Got it.
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the be thou faithful unto death countdown card was used by some in their resolve to remain faithful to the end.
The rank n file will justify with noooo light saying ' thankfully we have the truth now '
THATS WHAT THE OLD GUARD THOUGHT!!!! They were deluded, as are the presnt brigade !!
are you an angry atheist?.
personally i wish i could say anger is to strong a word, but from my point of view :-.
a)i am angry that religion teaches children to hate " worldly people" at least that was my experience ad a j.w.
Ah yes zeb...nowhere to go, as an athiest I'd say that applies to the whole cemetery!!.
Best wishes.
