Glad to hear thing are going better for you. Give her some space. You are going to have to re-build trust before you can even consider discussing religion again. Best wishes for you!
StarTrekAngel
JoinedPosts by StarTrekAngel
-
39
Just an introduction
by Israel Ricky Gonzales injust wanted to say hello since i am new to this forum.
allow myself to introduce myself.
lol.
-
-
-
5
History of the JW movement in Mexico
by StarTrekAngel inhere is a fairly detailed article on the history of the movement in mexico.
it's in spanish, but i passed it thru google translate and it does a pretty good job at translating the document.
it's an article from one of the most prestigious universities in mexico.. being in a predominantly hispanic circuit, we have several brother and sisters from mexico who were witnesses under the conditions that existed back then.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
search "google translate" and then paste the link into the page. It will give you a new link but this time the words will be translated. The translation isn't perfect but you can make out the proper grammar. -
12
1993 AWAKE on Child Abuse
by The_Doctor10 in10/8/93 awake article about child abuse misconceptions, checkout the second misconception: children fantasize or lie about abuse.. this article notes how it's extremely unlikely that children lie in cases of abuse (95% in some estimates are truthful) and how even among the ones who lie it's usually when they make a claim (in truth) but then subsequently lie and say it didn't happen, when in actuality, it did.. given this knowledge, why the two witness rule?
95% odds that the child who claims abuse is telling the truth by the awakes own admission, that should be more than enough to change policies of the wts.. http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g19931008/about-child-abuse/#?insight%5bsearch_id%5d=8d161c40-c4d0-4ddb-aadf-bcf2b480d55b&insight%5bsearch_result_index%5d=0.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
Marked! -
5
History of the JW movement in Mexico
by StarTrekAngel inhere is a fairly detailed article on the history of the movement in mexico.
it's in spanish, but i passed it thru google translate and it does a pretty good job at translating the document.
it's an article from one of the most prestigious universities in mexico.. being in a predominantly hispanic circuit, we have several brother and sisters from mexico who were witnesses under the conditions that existed back then.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
Here is a fairly detailed article on the history of the movement in Mexico. It's in Spanish, but I passed it thru google translate and it does a pretty good job at translating the document. It's an article from one of the most prestigious universities in Mexico.
Being in a predominantly hispanic circuit, we have several brother and sisters from Mexico who were witnesses under the conditions that existed back then. They have been interviewed during meetings and they continue to relate how they were not able to pray in meetings or sing because they were under "ban". This article shows that there was not such a thing as a "ban". In comparison, you can see that the restrictions they had were nothing compared to what was going on in other countries. Countries in which witnesses were told they'd better die than giving up their rights to worship God as they understood was required. (Malawi?)
It will also show that the aim of the Mexican government at the time was not to crush religion overall but to fight the political influence of the catholic church. It shows the government was willing to turn a blind eye or bend the rules when it came to minority groups. Yet, if the WTBTS would have admitted to their true purpose, they would have lost all of their real state to the government. The way the WTBTS managed to maintain a peaceful relationship with the authorities, and therefore keep their precious properties, was by presenting itself as aligned with some of the government branches (which included the military) and institutions that were looking at de-fanaticizing people. Asking its followers to not "participate in compulsory military service" would have meant departing from the above. The article never talks about the military service issue that we all know about but it gives the political background for the environment that may have lead to the WTBTS decision to dismiss it as a violation of political neutrality.
-
17
Ghana jw.org call for retraction
by mana11 inwe have read with interest the above front-page headline and its articlewhich was published on page 3 of your newspaper the chronicle of june 22, 2015. in the article, the writer, alfred adams of takoradi, reported that rebecca dankwa and her mother, believed to be worshipping at the jehovahs witnesses church, refused to accept blood transfusion on the grounds that their religion forbids blood transfusions, and she died as a result.. as representatives of jehovahs witnesses in ghana, we write to point out the misinformation contained in that report.
our investigation into the matter has clearly established that the said rebecca dankwa was not one of jehovahs witnesses.
since this person mentioned in the report was not one of jehovahs witnesses, we are at a loss as to why the name of jehovahs witnesses should be linked to the story.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
I think the stand from the JWs here is that she "was not one of the JWs" means she was not baptized. They are trying to make it seem that they are not to blame because she had not signed the contract yet. Definitely double speak but one double speak no one outside our circle would understand. -
36
Anthony Morris III: "...we cannot control everything that an individual might say..."
by cappytan ini noticed that anthony morris iii just said on the broadcast: "while we cannot control everything that an individual might say, it is clear that over the decades protecting children from abuse is a top priority for this organization.".
that, in my opinion, is a direct response to the richard ashe "spiritual protection not physical protection" deposition.. here's a video putting the two statements side by side.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgevpuyn7gy.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
Can you say Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin -
18
Do JW's use the bible to preach anymore?
by lostinthought inso...i totally stopped going to meetings two years ago.
since then, i have gotten married and moved into my husband's home.
his father and mother also live there.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
As far as I can recall we have hardly ever used the bible in preaching. The bible was only a tool to explain the magazine and not the other way around. I've been a JW for over 10 years. Granted that I know a couple of elders that would weight more on using the bible while preaching but the official education on how to preach, as given during meetings, was always as stated above. I remember we would have special session during the kingdom ministry encouraging us to try preaching from the bible only in our next field day.
When you religion has to remind you about how the bible is a good preaching tool by itself, your religion needs revision.
-
6
No education. Not just to avoid critical thinking
by StarTrekAngel ini was listening to my brother in law talk about his job this week.
he had a stable job for a long time.
it was not without problems but it was there.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
I was listening to my brother in law talk about his job this week. He had a stable job for a long time. It was not without problems but it was there. He did not make a whole lot and has always struggled financially. He is a bit naive and wants to play by the book in environments where people are constantly bending the rules. I am not here to support that kind of behavior. I am just making the point that he would easily become target for people that were looking for escape goats. After he got tired of that job (10 years plus) he started working somewhere else and has not been able to hold a job for more than a year at a time. Everywhere he went he ended up in trouble. I know him well enough to know he did not cause them, but was easily made a target. In his latest rant about his job, he started complaining about how he works with a crew of men who don't seem to be able to hold a normal conversation. All they can talk about has to do with sex, drinking and shady business. On top of that, they seem to not be able to talk without letting out a curst after every other word. He says that sometimes he gets a headache from hearing it all day. I don't doubt that there is a healthy portion of "JW self righteousness" in that comment from him but I can understand where he comes from. I don't mind hearing the cursing and I know I let one out every now and then, but I know there is something to be said about people that can not talk without cursing all the time.
That is what got me thinking. I work in a professional environment, surrounded by mostly engineers and business people. That is not to say there are not well spoken bad apples, but at least our conversations are much more pleasant and usually surround around worlds affairs, travel, family activities, political issues, and even spiritual ones. Almost instantly my apostate little devil seating on my left shoulder told me..."If he had actually invested some more time educating himself rather than dedicating so much time to the org, he would not have to settle for this shitty jobs right alongside with uneducated people."
He is the kind to follow rules to the T. He's even listed his "30 plus years as a public speaker" as a qualification in his resume. On top of that, his son is headed down the same path, although I got to say the kid is not interested on anything. No school, no org, not even baptized.
So as you can see, lack of education doesn't just prevent you from analyzing things critically or progressing financially and professionally. It also helps to create that barrier that furthers indoctrination. The same barrier that they are asking our kids to create by making sure the let everyone and their mother know they are JWs on the first day of school.
-
8
Celebrating small victories
by StarTrekAngel indon't want to get into a lot of detail but it seems like my wife is finally having some flashes of awareness.
she's got them before, but not in very touchy subjects.
she was willing to seat down with me and look over some websites talking about some very controversial subjects that i do not dare to write about at the moment.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
Don't want to get into a lot of detail but it seems like my wife is finally having some flashes of awareness. She's got them before, but not in very touchy subjects. She was willing to seat down with me and look over some websites talking about some very controversial subjects that I do not dare to write about at the moment. I showed it to her, and following the advice, I did not pressure her into a debate or anything, did not ask any questions. Just silence. Some days later she tells me she've been doing some research of her own!!! This is something I've never expected of her.
May be one day I can finally post my whole story here. For the time being, I am happy on sharing the good days with you all. It helps me keep my feet on the ground.
-
20
You can be a Professor at a University but no higher Ed. for Jdubs WTH?
by Kensho inanybody know about a brother h. latchman in fl.
a jw elder was talking to me about him.
he was so impressed with the fact that he was a. sub.
-
-
StarTrekAngel
Yes, the guy is more than just a professor. He's got a laundry list of accreditations. He was also the owner of QC Telecom, the company that was sold to the WT a couple of years ago in a shady deal.