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  Addiction and Belief: A comment left for me on YouTube

  by schnell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd just like to share a comment that someone left on my youtube account (which i hesitate to call a channel because i don't upload anything).

  theism is an addiction; try talking someone out of a gambling (thought), or drug (chemical) addiction (both involve dopamine).

  you will find the same pattern of cognitive biases, and circular logic that of a theist.

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  StarTrekAngel

  And if we try to elaborate, the author makes a case for the many behavioral tendencies that we cement during teenage hood and how adolescence is a crucial time for establishing patterns that may last a lifetime. The WT and other cults may be unintentionally attempting to harness the brain at the best time to create life long members.
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  Addiction and Belief: A comment left for me on YouTube

  by schnell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd just like to share a comment that someone left on my youtube account (which i hesitate to call a channel because i don't upload anything).

  theism is an addiction; try talking someone out of a gambling (thought), or drug (chemical) addiction (both involve dopamine).

  you will find the same pattern of cognitive biases, and circular logic that of a theist.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Makes absolute sense. I am currently reading a book called "Brainstorm", which goes over the adolescent brain. The very same logic is put forth regarding a new understanding of the reason why teenagers engage in potentially dangerous and unreasonable behavior.
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  I Think I have Found a Way to Litigate

  by Simon Templar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking about how the wtb&t society bullies all of its members into submission with the threats they use (by practice), i.e.

  “if you do this we will df you and you will be shunned”.

  “if you da yourself, we will make an announcement and your friends, relatives and family will abandon you”, etc.

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  StarTrekAngel

  It is true to a degree that we all know better. There is never a 100% free will decision from the part of JW to shun. The WT influence is all over. The question is not wether it is true or not. Valid or invalid. The question is how to prove it in a court. The odds is what is against you, not the truth. This would kind of like the civil rights movement. It took decades of arguing and multiple deaths to finally wake up to the obvious. Society is totally immune to these things because most people think they are 100% in control of their lives. They have a hard time waking up to their own realities, much less are they ready to accept and sympathize with yours or ours. Even the therapist that i have seen, being a university professor with more than 30 years of experience in the therapy field, had a hard time understanding that JW are a cult. Even when he began to see it he still excused them saying that they are not Jim Jones. I even talked to my sister in law and tried to show her how they are abusing her mother. How she tried to give them everything she has left (financially) but still was not enough for her to start paying more attention. Think about ISIS. Only and barely now we are beginning (as a society) to understand that it is a battle of ideas. Government still wants to nuke them.

  Before any legal bodies or government institutions even begin to consider the possibilities of establishing protections against the destructive influence of cults, we would have to awaken the society as a whole. Even those who are not in cults. Given the current political divide, we are far, far from reaching that point. We are just unable to put ourselves in other people's shoes.
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  Mark the Date: March,20 2017 Austrailian Royal Commission to Reopen Its JW Child Abuse Inquiry

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i don't know whether anyone else has posted a thread on this development:.

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Hope they summon each and every one of the GB members and those who helps push their bullshit around.
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  I Think I have Found a Way to Litigate

  by Simon Templar in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been thinking about how the wtb&t society bullies all of its members into submission with the threats they use (by practice), i.e.

  “if you do this we will df you and you will be shunned”.

  “if you da yourself, we will make an announcement and your friends, relatives and family will abandon you”, etc.

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  StarTrekAngel

  How can the law argue with someone, like you relative, who swears and insists that he does not want to have anything to do with you and declares to be sound of mind and free of pressure.?

  I think other have tried to make the same argument already.
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  Is upstate New York a known Meca for cults?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just wondering.

  some of the articles i've read, warwick city administrators claim their city is like 30% exempt due to a heavy presence of religious groups who are moving to the area.

  now i am watching the show "the path" and they too are in upstate ny.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Just wondering. Some of the articles I've read, Warwick city administrators claim their city is like 30% exempt due to a heavy presence of religious groups who are moving to the area. Now I am watching the show "The Path" and they too are in upstate NY
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  JWs and nuetrality - Trump

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those that are receiving messages of doom and gloom from jws, they might like to remind them about obedience to their organization and what they were told in the april, 2016 watchtower which was studied only a few months ago, in august.these are some of the highlights-.

  although the bible teaches that god’s adversary, satan, has authority over political systems, it does not say that he directly controls each leader or official.

  (luke 4:5, 6) we should therefore avoid implying that a particular official is controlled by the devil.

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  Or remind them that they would be just as excited about the end being near if a liberal candidate would have won. They would be chanting about sexual perversion and abortion as a sign of the end.
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  What if one of the GB members suddenly needed blood?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is not much to be analyzed.

  in a cult enviromment the leader will always look up for himself.

  he would never hesitate to break every rule to save his own skin.

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  StarTrekAngel

  There is an easy way to do that... go to other threads.
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  What if one of the GB members suddenly needed blood?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is not much to be analyzed.

  in a cult enviromment the leader will always look up for himself.

  he would never hesitate to break every rule to save his own skin.

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  StarTrekAngel

  There is not much to be analyzed. In a cult enviromment the leader will always look up for himself. He would never hesitate to break every rule to save his own skin. This most likely will and should, by definition, extend to health as well. I am sure that if such situation came up, then he would uphold his right to make a choice that fits his consciousness. Even if that means taking blood and loosing his privileges in the process. Although that would speak mountains of the true strength of his faith, many witnesses would probably see this as if Jehovah is cleaning the ranks of the GB.

  However, would they or what if they were to be subjected to the same pressure as everyone else is? What if the HLC gets there first and enforces the no blood card. Point is, would there be any situation where his wishes are handled by a third party that bears no consequence on the outcome and have them think "I am at the hand of this nut-jobs who believed everything we ever told them and now my life is in their hands and they are ready to let me die"
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  HLC and privacy rights

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some time ago i used to work at a hospital.

  when my family members would receive treatment at this place, often times they would ask me if i could look up information for them regarding their health.

  i always had to tell them that privacy laws did not allow me to bypass the hospital's administration.

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  StarTrekAngel

  So, in a nutshell, If people sued hospitals more often over violation of privacy rights, this would potentially stop. Not that this is 100% the hospital's responsibility but they sure could help the situation in some cases may be even save a life.