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  Will Child Abuse Issue Keep Growing Like A Forest Fire?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. scandals

  i don't know if a commercial will come up and i can't find this on youtube as it is probably copyright material or i am just not in a good search pattern today.

  anyway, try to view this if you haven't seen it:.

  https://rutube.ru/video/0ba7a3ee7e89dbbc730c4af32032e33b/?ref=logo .

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  StarTrekAngel

  I think we can expect even broader news coverage after the hearing is over. Right now everything is regarded as "allegations". It is now that the evidence is being presented. Any rational news outlet will limit itself to report that the hearing is ongoing at this stage. If anything meaningful comes out of this hearing, I am pretty sure it will receive wider exposure.

  I doubt the US will see a hearing like this one any time soon, we are just too conservative to admit our faults. I think it will happen eventually but judging on past history, it will have to involve an abuse case taken all the way to the supreme court for anything these significant to happen.
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  Could this news cause a new revolt of members taking the lead like that which happened after the 1975 fiasco?

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we know that after the 1975 fiasco there were some revolts and disappointments in the brotherhood, which finally caused the removal of raymond franz and overseers like james penton, and so on.

  so, may be these news could cause the revolt of some members in the leadership.

  any thoughts?

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  I think another 1975 is overdue... is this it? I am not sure but for certain, it does not seem far fetched that this time, rather than making another prediction, they would make much broader statement to drive the flock to feel the attack of Gog of Magog has started. Once it settles and the money has been secured, the flock would have no one to blame but themselves, for no direct instructions from the FDS were communicated or affirmed on such attack.
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  Governing body deceiving members on purpose?

  by wwjdnwt in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was born into this religion.

  i was a jw for well over 30 years.

  i did much research before i had internet, i compared bibles and prayed deeply to help me to know if this was the truth.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Go read about the Standford Experiment. A movie is being made about it

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XN2X72jrFk
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  Why are none of the 'Governing Body' being summoned to any of the abuse commissions?

  by GodZoo in

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  2. scandals

  i'm not sure if this has been covered but i'm wondering why none of the gb are being requested at or formally summoned to any of the australian abuse commissions or other investigations that are taking place around the world?

  they after all are the ones single handedly responsible for making and enforcing all the rules that are the sole cause of all these abuses and problems.. why are they just keeping their silent distance and leaving all the ill-equipped and sadly incompetent local elders exposed to take the full public blast, criticism and humiliation for all that is now being brought out in these investigations?

  how are they seemingly able to sit cosy in their ivory tower immune and unaccountable?.

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  There is probably some corporate arrangement that covers them from responding directly. You may see the top Australian officials of the Australian branch being called in. I am not sure what it would take but for sure there is a way to get the GB there. It may just take an act of government or some sort of judicial proceeding in order to get them to show up.
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  Did the Governing Body sucessfully fend off this bad news on thier TV Broadcast??

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  2. scandals

  remember there was a talk about not listening to "false stories" about sexual abuse from apostates on jw's fantasy station?

  did the governing body put it out there as preemptive damage control because they knew this was coming?

  they must have had subpoenas giving them a heads up.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Yeap, there is no doubt that some will never quit believing. Even today there are some Branch Davidians that still live in or near the compound in Waco
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  Did the Governing Body sucessfully fend off this bad news on thier TV Broadcast??

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  remember there was a talk about not listening to "false stories" about sexual abuse from apostates on jw's fantasy station?

  did the governing body put it out there as preemptive damage control because they knew this was coming?

  they must have had subpoenas giving them a heads up.

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  Why do you think they had new light on the subject of "Gog of Magog"?

  Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin
  
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  This is getting more and more disgusting: "JW Abuse Victim Told to Bottle Her Tears"

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it took six years and three trials before a senior official in the jehovah's witness church was jailed for sexually abusing his daughter.. the only support the jehovah's witnesses gave the woman was to tell her to" put her tears in a skin bottle".. .

  source: http://goo.gl/pjgy7p.

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  Holy Sh...t!!
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  Are they trying to make me feel like crap?

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  2. bible

  so i have not reported a single hour of fs or family worship in over 8 months.

  have not given a single comment in a meeting for over a year.

  a few weeks ago, my brother in law, who is an ms now, approached me.

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  Yes, I've been thinking about it. I was not moving on it because I am making some progress with my wife and I did not want to ruin it.
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  Uh-Oh, JW's are confused by the news reporting... Getting texts from active members

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  you can refer to me as a still in mole.

  anyway, i've been getting texts from jw's about the australia news.

  the general census is that the jw's are very, very confused.

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  StarTrekAngel

  CNN, NBC and NPR do have it on their websites but not in their headlines news. If you do a Yahoo search today, or simply click on the #9 or #10 trend, you will see that the top 6 or 7 search results are about this news. Only after this does JW-DOT-ORG shows up in the search.
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  Are they trying to make me feel like crap?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so i have not reported a single hour of fs or family worship in over 8 months.

  have not given a single comment in a meeting for over a year.

  a few weeks ago, my brother in law, who is an ms now, approached me.

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  StarTrekAngel

  So I have not reported a single hour of FS or family worship in over 8 months. Have not given a single comment in a meeting for over a year. A few weeks ago, my brother in law, who is an MS now, approached me. He wanted help with a WT presentation. You know, those were you pretend to be the JW and the other person pretends to be the householder. I was supposed to play the part of the JW. Being as naive as my BIL is, I did not really felt like he was trying to make me feel bad and besides, he caught me off guard and in front of the family so I could not say no. That was until last week I was given an assignment for the ministry school. I am supposed to do it along with my wife and oldest daughter. I am supposed to pretend I have a family study going on. This was given to me by one of the most arrogant elders in the congregation.

  I was wondering if there is "new light" on how to compel inactive ones by means of making them look like effing hypocrites in front of their families.