Could all these changes be part of the religion trying to reinvent themselves and distance themselves from failed promises? A vain attempt to put lipstick on a sow. Gb.1 may have actually believed what they preached. Gb.2 is all about power, damage control and getting $$$$ into the corporation.
4thgen
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The purpose of changing JW names, titles and terms
by gingerbread induring a discussion over the weekend, we exchanged ideas about recent changes in terminology related to assembly days, conventions and new titles for the higher-ups.
i commented that for years in 'security' at larger meetings we were told to talk to any that seemed out of place and ask questions that would indicate if they were apostates - antiquated terms like 'overseer' or a reference the 'truth' book.. another in our group brought up the character in the orwell book 1984 and how his job was to separate new and approved terms from old words.
this was called doublethink and blackwhite.
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JW.Org
by Kool Jo ini've been pondering......with this new "push" to direct individuals to thw jw.org website, even when the dubs are out preaching...what do you think the future will be for the preaching work?.
some time ago i read that the mormons have implemented a live chat feature that allows you to speak with their missionaries....i doubt the borg would do this, but i think they have something up their sleeves.. peace.
kool jo.
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Adude that was my thought about the annual meeting it encouraged all to go online to push web count numbers up. After some spiritual surfing has done damage they will probably design a special web filter for all jws as a blocking against harmful/ apostate sites....probably have spy ware too with local elders monotoring websites publishers view. its all about control and power
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Is the Watchtower Really Rewriting their History through the DVDs and CD-ROM?s Historical Revisionist.
by RottenRiley ini am searching for the materials showing the watchtower changing the original content like or examples of the following.. .
"the preaching work will be finished in the 20th century and never be repeated".
i heard they changed this gem, and many others, why are they so dishonest, their members are stuck in the mental mud, doubt they even read the new magazines so why are they going to the trouble of changing or revising their past magazines when the members wanting true christian freedom, practicing love and compassion will locate the revised materials?.
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Child Abuse or Apostasy...which is worse?
by kneehighmiah ini believe that apostasy is the ultimate jw sin.
only apostates are mentally diseased.
it's hilarious how a child predator or psychopath has never been called mentally diseased.
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Yes, I agree that child abuse is much, much worse....However, through my experience I have found that childless couples, with the elder/husband as a 'company man' are far less empathetic to child abuse. Many I know are hardened to the sin of abuse, but would readily condemn an apostate without any qualms of conscience. Is that screwed up or what?
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New congregation accounting system
by thedog1 ini'm sure i read a thread here about the new congregation accounting procedures.
i ask because i handle the accounts in our cong and in our part of the world the new accounting system has just arrived whereby local congs do not have their own account any longer, but all funds outside of basic monthly costs is forwarded to an account controlled by the org.
this is causing huge confusion in our cong as we have to work out how much we need to keep back for monthly costs and the new idea is that you send all your extra cash to the org and if you need it back you can ask for it but we don't know how easy or hard it would be to do that.
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4thgen
Why all the excitement? We know the corporate desires come before the needs of the flock. Just more proof.
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Argument with my Child "Why did I stay in the Organization so long?" Anger and Bitter Feelings.
by RottenRiley inlast night my third oldest child wanted to know why we stayed in the organization so long.
child is a third year college student enjoying all the classes this "wicked system" has to offer, the insatiable appetite for learning makes him want to argue and debate, i don't have the energy to debate because i don't feel good with all life has thrown our way.. .
"the only reason i went to meetings so long was because grandma and grandpa needed somebody to take them to meetings and cobe aunt and uncle and secretary aunt and uncle refused to talk to grandma for years, otherwise i would have stopped attending the kingdom hall because the kids were assholes and i was always the one who had to make "first contact", "i was the one who had to go around and meet and greet newbies while the regular jw wall-flowers (calebs) ignored all the visitors and new persons visiting our kingdom hall.
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4thgen
Do you feel dissappointed? Duped? Betrayed ? Maybe angry? Get on tbe same wavelength. You are not the enemy....getting a common ground may work
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Has the Governing Body Become More or Less Authoritarian in Recent Years?
by cofty init seems to me that this is a no-brainer but i have been out since '96.. so based on your personal experiences what do you think?.
lots more - a bit more - just the same as always - less - a lot less?.
if you think more or lots more can you spot a time or event when it started to change?.
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They have been getting tighter and tighter as their curtian is pulled back further, bringing all their hidden issues to light.
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Why do the GB need a new Bethel compound if the end is so close? Here is the "official" answer
by sir82 inas most of us know, the society is spending 10's of millions of dollars on a giant, state of the art, secluded bunker country club headquarters in very remote, isolated warwick ny.. the question that "some" have is, why?
if armageddon is coming "very soon", why go to all that time & effort & expense?
why have thousands of jws dedicating their time to this massive effort instead of the "lifesaving ministry"?.
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While their at it, why not build a very nice home near San Diego so it can house the faithful men of old in the new system?????
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Six years , new location , no love.
by smiddy ini had never thought about this that much until now.
my wife and i have been living in this community for over 6 years now , and nobody has ever called upon my wife or myself for that matter, to encourage us back to the meetings as jehovahs witnesses , who have become inactive /faded .. the same goes for my son and his wife , who live in the same area , have never been contacted with the intent of trying to re-activate them.. admittedly, only a couple of times in these past 6 years we both my son and i , have had witnesses call upon us in the normal d2d work , without acknowledging if ever they knew we were non practicising witnesses .
hard to beleive since my neice is in the local congregation , and is aware of our former congregations that we attended .. to cap it off , a few of our "freinds" who know where we are have never ever offered any encouragement or support in trying to get us back to their "truth ".
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It is so telling. We haven't attended in 2 years. Only one pioneer sister has kept in touch (to count time???) An elder does phone occasionally when my active elderly mother cannot be reached. NEVER has he asked how me or my family are. only asks @ my mother. ***hole!
Not a Christlike man in the bunch. Only company men.
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What's the Watchtower's View of Dedicating Your Time To Charity? Food-bank, Helping Poor Get Benefits, Big Brother, ect..
by RottenRiley indo you know of anyone who sucessfully dedicated time to charity without getting bad mouthed by witness elders?
we had a sister in creepside congregation who got a lot of lip when she was working for the food bank for free.
the jehovah's witnesses elders hinted, used the watchtower study to say "jehovah's people are ambassadors to satan's world and know the real solution is god's kingdom".
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If a JW volunteers to help the community, they are viewed as lacking faith in God to solve the problems of the world.