KateW: Thanks for starting this thread and your friend who asked it.
4thgen
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How did you teach your kids TTATT? How old were they?
by KateWild inwhen i first started going on "other" jw websites my head was spinning so i didn't say anything to my kids about what i had read.
steve hassan's material helped a lot it was when i read that, that i realised i need to free my kids.. i got a lot of advice from jwn too.. my daughter had moved cities and went to the hall we used to visit frequently.
things changed when she became a member instead of just a visitor.
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Trolleys everywhere in my neck of the woods
by KateWild ini went to an appointment today and what do you know a trolley.. i couldn't stop and chat, but i have another appoinment thursday, i will go early and have a chat.
i love this it's great fun chatting to jws whilst being df'd.. any ideas for my presentation?.
do you think i am harming myself?.
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4thgen
Hey Kate, what do you want to accomplish by engaging them?
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How did you teach your kids TTATT? How old were they?
by KateWild inwhen i first started going on "other" jw websites my head was spinning so i didn't say anything to my kids about what i had read.
steve hassan's material helped a lot it was when i read that, that i realised i need to free my kids.. i got a lot of advice from jwn too.. my daughter had moved cities and went to the hall we used to visit frequently.
things changed when she became a member instead of just a visitor.
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4thgen
Hey KateW,
This is a good topic! I’ve been endeavoring to teach my 10 year old critical thinking on various topics. It is beginning to take a hold of his everyday reasoning; he is a very easy going kid, always eager to please. Since he will be attending the convention with his father this summer, I thought it would be good to discuss 1914 and the ‘generation‘.We got out the bound volumes and we talked about the cover of the 5/15/84 Watchtower “1914, The generation that will not pass away”. Then I showed him the names of each of the people and the days that they died. We reasoned together about what that all meant. We discussed critical thinking, false prophesy and hypocrisy.
A bit later, I had him read from a bound volume “If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this system of things….you will never fulfill any career that this system offers….“We talked about what he thought that meant. After our discussion, I showed him that the article was from the 5/22/1969 Awake- 45 years ago! He was amazed. We then discussed again about false prophesy. The bound volumes were left on the table and I caught him looking at the articles again. Apparently, it made him think….
I will have to tell my story in detail at another time; but my son knows about that I stopped being active because of the Watchtower’s stance on child abuse issues; and I believed that after we talked about 1914, he understood a little more of the depth of my convictions…..
... and here I thought we were doing so well….My son is at this dad’s for one of the 4 weeks summer vacation weeks. As I was typing the above, my son was in a meeting arranged by his father to become an unbaptized publisher! Because of his fathers past abuses, my son is afraid of getting him upset, so I’m sure he went along with the meeting.
He will not be home until this weekend and I was hesitant to talk in detail with him on the phone, as I’m sure his father is recording the conversations. We will have to do some more in depth conversation when he gets home. God, it never seems to end!
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WT Society Alters their History as " The Party " did in George Orwell's 1984
by flipper infinally my wife and i got around to reading george orwell's " 1984 " .
as many of you know who have read the book that " the party " or " big brother " as the ruling power in the book is called ; constantly changes records of it's past dealings so as to deceive the public about any false forecasts they may have mistakenly made ; in an effort to put forth a positive image of itself it destroys past embarrassing records or paperwork which would expose the " party " as a failure.
much the way the wt society has altered their history to deceive the public and their own members.. notice this quote from george orwell's " 1984 " on pg.
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4thgen
Hello HowtheBible..... Yes, thats the one. The book is much better. It is available on CD. Great listen!
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As a parent, did you ever have a swimming pool and invite neighbor kids?
by 4thgen inbeing 4th generation, i realize that am socially stunted, in regard to those that are not jws.
i am forging ahead and endeavoring to build a life outside of jw's.
i am trying as i can to socialize my child to make friends and be a normal kid.
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4thgen
TWICE SHY: Thank you very much. It helps a bunch! Excellent advise. Thanks for taking the time to post. 4thgen
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WT Society Alters their History as " The Party " did in George Orwell's 1984
by flipper infinally my wife and i got around to reading george orwell's " 1984 " .
as many of you know who have read the book that " the party " or " big brother " as the ruling power in the book is called ; constantly changes records of it's past dealings so as to deceive the public about any false forecasts they may have mistakenly made ; in an effort to put forth a positive image of itself it destroys past embarrassing records or paperwork which would expose the " party " as a failure.
much the way the wt society has altered their history to deceive the public and their own members.. notice this quote from george orwell's " 1984 " on pg.
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4thgen
There are many good threads on this site with reference to the similarities between the WT and the book/movie “1984”. This one is especially insightful with some thought provoking comments and links. I choose bump this thread, so the the newer posters may make the connection.
There is also a great youtube video on the subject
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c92sMSFsXxk
It is amazing how the organization is becoming more and more like the book as the WT removes and changes its failed doctrine via the internet.
Enjoy! 4thgen
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As a parent, did you ever have a swimming pool and invite neighbor kids?
by 4thgen inbeing 4th generation, i realize that am socially stunted, in regard to those that are not jws.
i am forging ahead and endeavoring to build a life outside of jw's.
i am trying as i can to socialize my child to make friends and be a normal kid.
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4thgen
Very sad.....thx for the warning
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Are you complicit if you stay in?
by mrhhome ini am going to throw down the gaunlet.
those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.
while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.
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4thgen
Notice the one on the left inthe skirt is NOT smiling. Must be the one working the stand. Happy folks r on vacation.
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If You Could Tell A Jehovah's Witness One Thing~~~What Would It Be?
by minimus ini really would just like to ask them if they believe everything they hear on the platform or read in a magazine.
they seriously look like cultists.
it is embarrassing..
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4thgen
You have been lied to. WAKE UP!!!