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  Entertainment for International Delegates

  by Listener in

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  bibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.

  it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.

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  4thgen

  As with many of you, I am in shock with this video. I guess this is the new JW.org, because this certainly wasn't the organization I was baptised into. Unbelieveable. I can't even believe it!

  BTW I lake Cellars video better! :)

  http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jehovah+happy+Pherrell+Williams+&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=jehovah+happy+pherrell+williams+&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=248C2A010886B4A1908C248C2A010886B4A1908C
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  Is new light coming again?

  by justme67 in

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  2. beliefs

  i just turned in my resignation letter to my congregation a few weeks ago.

  last week, 2 elders called me to say they received my letter and would like to meet with me to discuss my concerns.

  in my letter, i said i had found out about all the child abuse cases that were going on and that i didnt agree with their policy of disfellowshipping.

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  4thgen

  Hi Justme,

  So glad you didn't fall for it. They've been using that trick for a while now. Welcome to freedom! Hugs, 4thgen
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  Watchtower transformation to JW.org - step by step TTATT recap

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has been making cunning and calculated changes in the organization to gain more money, power and control.

  jwn has a multitude of posts on the rapid metamorphosis of the watchtower into jw.org.

  please feel free to comment and interject your thoughts.

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  Viodot: how about: A cunning and calculated plan, brought on by desperate survivalism. ????

  Also, we forgot to mention the cartoon ministry.....
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  HELP needed for a friend, please. Anyone?..

  by defender of truth in

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  2. bible

  a friend of mine (who has recently started reading jwn) is having trouble eating and sleeping because, even after having recently woken up to ttatt.. they are still concerned about 'demons, everlasting destruction, and jehovahs disapproval'.. i've tried to encourage them.

  i'm sure you all understand that these things can take time, the transition period is often painful, to some extent.

  i'm still struggling with anger and depression myself.. i'll be away from jwn, off the internet, and thus out of contact with them for a while (don't ask why)... so please don't expect me to reply to or even look at what you post, .

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  Hello Defender of the Truth, It is very heartwarming for you to be concerned for your friend and make this request. Apparently you said that your friend may read what is written on this board. Do you think that the title of the post: "HELP needed for a friend, please. Anyone?.." would attract them to read it? Maybe so....Or maybe some something along the line of: "Are the Demons, a Reality or Imagined?" would attract their attention more?

  If you friend did a searchon this site for "demons' there is TONS of information already commented on.

  Just trying to help....Good Luck! Hugs, 4thgen
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  What the new children of the kingdom look like these days!

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  with jw.org becoming the rage and new object of veneration, this is how the children will be appearing in a kh near you!

  any comments?.

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  4thgen

  OMG that is GREAT!!!!!! Thanks for posting. Hugs, 4thgen

  Funny, how the kids onthe video have a similar look in their eyes!

  
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  Would you go to church?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have an unspoken rule that if someone ever invites me to a church - that i haven't been to before - i will go.

  even though i'm an atheist i'm still interested in the experiance.

  just like i'm not into basketball but i would like to go to a game sometime to feel the energy of the crowd.. growing up as a jw i've never set foot in another church.

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  I've toured some churches on vacation simply for the history of the buildings, etc. But to attend with the hopes of getting reconnected to a religion? No. You will find that many on this site are jaded from religion after learning TTATT.

  With that said, if you want to go....then GO! Enjoy! But don't get caught up in any religious cult again.
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  WTF THIS S*** IS REAL!!!!

  by Yondaime in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as i am typing this post i am constantly looking over my shoulder to see if anybody is at my bedroom door lol guys i know i am stuck in a a cult.

  but this s*** is f****** crazy!!!!.

  w13 11/15 p.16 par.17 -- " at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.

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  Yep, it's all true! You are lucky to find this out now, while you are young. Learning TTATT may be a challange for you to accept at first, but it is better to uncover the lie, than live in ignorance. You've discovered the REAL Truth.

  Go easy on your parents, they MAY not know TTATT.
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  Please help....in a dilemma..

  by crazyhorse in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  please help with this: when i was in college, there was a lot of talk about university and how all who pursue that are wasting their time and all that.

  even before going to uni, there was a lot of pressurr on me concerning my decision.

  during that time, two elders sat with me for appointment as ms and asked me if i have freedom of speech in the org since i'm going to uni and i said no.

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  RUN!
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  An important message from a PRACTICING Jehovah's witness

  by Sparks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi, i am also a practicing jehovah's witness and very proud of it,to say the very-very least..!

  i am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of jehovah god in england.. this important letter is personally to you, just as many of the bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by you the reader.

  i am writing to you to urge you to take stock of your life, think what your future holds for you.

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  So how much time did you get in by typing that? Didn't you want to stand by the trolley?
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  You ought to know positively the appearance of your flock

  by leaving_quietly in

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  2. bible

  this famous line from proverbs 27:23 (in the old nwt) is used for elders and the organization to justify field service reports.

  but, what is this verse talking about?

  is it about overseers in the congregation?

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  4thgen

  Interesting....23You should know well the appearance of your flock. Take good care of your sheep,
  24 For wealth does not last forever,

  I guess the elders got to know that appearance of the flocks $$$$ when they requested monthly donations!