John, Thank you for starting this post and all the others. You are a lively contributor to this site. You have started many thought provoking threads. Excellent points. Isn’t it great to be able to be on this site and have open and frank discussions over ideas and even discuss specific wording?
4thgen
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Who Qualifies for TTATT?
by John Aquila inwhen i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.
ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.
all his family are jws.
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This Video Makes A Lot More Sense Today With Whats Going Down Today
by freemindfade inwith today's events the message and tone of this video makes a lot more sense.
thus the defeated, failing, delivery.. http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201509_1_video.
it had a purpose.
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freemindfade - Hello! What part of the video? I really can't stomach the whole thing!
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Found this artist rendering,.. shows how Jesus had issues explaining the "overlapping generations"
by notjustyet in.
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Had you thought of feeling sorry for the G.B?
by The Rebel ini only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.
that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.
there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.
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How will many JW's react ?
by Phizzy ini did not believe i would see the demise of the wt in my lifetime, and maybe i will not, they may be able to ride out their present problems.. but how do you think this will affect the average, loyal, believing jw ?.
usually most things just wash over them, if there is a slight niggle, they use their well-worn way of explaining things to themselves as in "the end is near" or "jehovah knows best" etc etc.
but the huge sea-change in corporate policy that we see unfolding, all construction work stopped, except warwick and maybe their biggest project, chelmsford u.k. huge bethel layoffs, and the lifestyle of the remaining staff reduced to virtual slavery, more bethel closures, spiritual food reduced for the public as well as the r&f, and all of this being the opposite of what they have claimed was evidence of jehovah's blessing ???.
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Username: "80,000 properties in their real estate portfolio"?
Interesting. Where did that figure come from?
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Warwick, What is it good for?
by freemindfade inabsolutely nothing.... has anyone dared ask what they need this place for?
think about a few things.
in bethels hay day, there was a shit ton of literature being printed, they even need a giant factory with elevators a truck could fit in.
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Agreed.
You may find this thread interesting: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/309970001/why-new-world-headquarters
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Lightbulb Moment ------> Two Witness Rule
by 4thgen inthe jw's always say that there must be "two witnesses before a matter is firmly established".
if that is the case, then why is the account of moses and the 10 commandments or jesus in the wilderness talking to satan taken as fact?
moses and jesus were both by themselves in the wilderness.
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What do you think? The JW's always say that there must be "two witnesses before a matter is firmly established". If that is the case, then why is the account of Moses and the 10 commandments or Jesus in the wilderness talking to Satan taken as fact? Moses and Jesus were both by themselves in the wilderness. Where was the second witness to these events?
Certainly, victim plus forensic evidence in rape cases stand up more to scrutiny than an event with one person telling about an event they alone experienced. What a huge disconnect the WTBTS has!
Just my two cents....
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What will you do?
by Defianttruth ini've been thinking, "what if it does fail and there is a mass exodus?".
i have been wronged and damaged greatly by these ones.
every one needs to handle this situation in his or her own way, but as for me if it does happen, i will meet them with open arms.
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4thgen
Interesting question. Can you imagine millions and millions learning TTATT at the same time? Everyone handles disappointment and devastation in their own way. Some by suicide, others by drink, drugs, etc. Some may flip out others may quietly accept things and move on. It would also be an opportunity for unscrupulous people to set their self up as the new leaders and draw weak ones into their own form of worship. (Abuse victims are often attracted to abusers...until the cycle is broken)
I would definitely return kindness to those who showed kindness to those who were not judgmental of those that left before. As for the others, I'd have a wait and see attitude. If they were genuinely in need of support, I would gladly help where ever I could. After all, we've been there and can relate to the unsettling new knowledge we discovered.
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Watchtower Society: something terribly going on - scenarios
by Gorbatchov inif an (aggressive) real estate fund is stopping it's operations directly,.
and if an publishing house is minimize the portfolio,.
and if a member of it's board of directors is telling the costs are higher then the profits,.
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Agreeing with hard to be Me: It could be a big publicity stunt.... Rev up the R&F..."Why oh Why? Is it the big A?" We will then hear of an announcement 'Don't miss the special meeting...." After everyone is let down or some stupid adjustment is made....back to business as usual. -
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World Wide Construction comes to a Shuddering Halt - Jehovah's Blessing has Evidently been Suspended!
by Slidin Fast inthe chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.
the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.
my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.
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4thgen
Good thread!