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  WT Society Alters their History as " The Party " did in George Orwell's 1984

  by flipper in

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  finally my wife and i got around to reading george orwell's " 1984 " .

  as many of you know who have read the book that " the party " or " big brother " as the ruling power in the book is called ; constantly changes records of it's past dealings so as to deceive the public about any false forecasts they may have mistakenly made ; in an effort to put forth a positive image of itself it destroys past embarrassing records or paperwork which would expose the " party " as a failure.

  much the way the wt society has altered their history to deceive the public and their own members.. notice this quote from george orwell's " 1984 " on pg.

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  4thgen

  There are many good threads on this site with reference to the similarities between the WT and the book/movie “1984”. This one is especially insightful with some thought provoking comments and links. I choose bump this thread, so the the newer posters may make the connection.

  There is also a great youtube video on the subject

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c92sMSFsXxk

  It is amazing how the organization is becoming more and more like the book as the WT removes and changes its failed doctrine via the internet.

  Enjoy! 4thgen
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  As a parent, did you ever have a swimming pool and invite neighbor kids?

  by 4thgen in

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  being 4th generation, i realize that am socially stunted, in regard to those that are not jws.

  i am forging ahead and endeavoring to build a life outside of jw's.

  i am trying as i can to socialize my child to make friends and be a normal kid.

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  Very sad.....thx for the warning
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  Are you complicit if you stay in?

  by mrhhome in

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  i am going to throw down the gaunlet.

  those who know the truth but stay in anyways are complicit in actions of the jehovah witness organization.

  while i am sympathetic to the very difficult choices that they have to make, their unwillingness to confront the jw enables the organization.. some of you may remember my story.

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  The Watchtower seems to agree with the complicity of inaction stance.... Out of their own mouth.....

  (Joh 17:12) Those Pharisees who were guilty of complicity in the plot against Jesus’ life were described as ‘subjects for Gehenna.’

  it-2 pp. 639-641 - Insight, Volume 2
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  Sisters Witnessing in "Pants" now?

  by Atlantis in

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  witnessing in pants now?

  petra.

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  4thgen

  Notice the one on the left inthe skirt is NOT smiling. Must be the one working the stand. Happy folks r on vacation.
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  If You Could Tell A Jehovah's Witness One Thing~~~What Would It Be?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i really would just like to ask them if they believe everything they hear on the platform or read in a magazine.

  they seriously look like cultists.

  it is embarrassing..

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  You have been lied to. WAKE UP!!!
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  Pot...Meet Kettle. Kettle...Pot

  by undercover in

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  from a new wt article (may, i think) about predicting the future.

  and i quote:.

  religious leaders sometimes predict tragic worldwide events to warn mankind and gather followers.

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  A Jdub just left this magazine in my door. I skipped to the last pharagraphs of the article to see how they spun the conclusion. Here is what it said "Is there a reliable forecast involving your future and that of your loved ones?....The Witnesses are not psychics nor do they claim to hear spirit voices or to have any special powers of prediction.They are students of the Bible who can show you the good things that God is actively arranging for your future."
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  The Unwitness has a positive experience Sat. 11am at McDonalds

  by RayPublisher in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  interview with joel the unwitness:.

  http://youtu.be/bpwylueul44.

  an outstanding experience of unwitnessing occurs when a former jw happens to find himself at a mcdonalds around 11am on a saturday.... does pandemonium ensue?

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  Hey Ray & Joel, Thank you for posting this. You are onto something with this tactic. We don't hate them! We hate the lies! It really throws them of guard when you mention 'love', because they think all apostates are angry and bitter. (Sure some are and some of us WERE when we realized the falsehoods and manipulation, it's only natural at first.) They are not used to talking about love between themselves individually. And how can they argue LOVE, since that is what Jesus preached???? We can make more headway by being loving and kind. For those of us that have had years of ministry school training, let's turn it around and use it to teach TTATT. Thanks again for the post. It was inspiring! God Bless!
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  QFR August 15, 2014 - Resurrection and Marriage

  by wisdomfrombelow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the article addressed luke 20:34-36 and now they finally admit jesus could have been referring to the heavenly resurrection.

  they said "put simply, the answer is that we cannot say" which is surprising because they have something to say about everything.

  perhaps all the old people who are waiting the new world as widow and widowers want to know if they have a chance to be reunited with their dead loved one.

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  Years ago, I attended a daytime book study where this was discussed. There were many widows who caused a scene when this was discussed. There was crying and general mayhem. The Brother ended the book study early, because of the disruption and argumentativeness of the unhappy old sisters. Just further proof the WT don't know nothing ! They make a firm stand made on an issue and then years later a total reversal. Meanwhile, old ladies are traumatized, lives are ripped apart and hearts broken. Bastards.
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  In our local news... Jehovah's Witnesses LIED to Man with Brain injury

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  http://krqe.com/2014/05/08/family-of-man-with-brain-injury-fights-building-plan/.

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  https://www.facebook.com/savejimsview.

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  4thgen

  Bastards.
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  As a parent, did you ever have a swimming pool and invite neighbor kids?

  by 4thgen in

  1. social
  2. family

  being 4th generation, i realize that am socially stunted, in regard to those that are not jws.

  i am forging ahead and endeavoring to build a life outside of jw's.

  i am trying as i can to socialize my child to make friends and be a normal kid.

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  Thanks for the comments. We will move ahead with the pool idea and limit it to one or two friends at a time. Hopefully the Mom's will come, too so we can continue to rebuild our lives. God, this is so tough when you've been brainwashed to believe everyone but Jw's are evil. We're fighting through the cult conditioning and moving ahead one step at a time. Thanks again!