4thgen

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  "I don't care if it's teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life"

  by 4thgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever heard that statement?

  i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.

  they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.

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  Wow. I am overwhelmed at all the clever retorts and thought provoking questions. There is a lot of wisdom on this board. Keep um coming! Oh, and THANKS. Hugs, 4thgen
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  Anyone else notice the new Terms of Use on jw.org?

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i first noticed it today... slides up at the bottom.

  i wonder why they felt the need to do this?

  this is just silly for a religious website..

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  4thgen

  What they are doing is so calculated and evil........
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  Anyone else notice the new Terms of Use on jw.org?

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i first noticed it today... slides up at the bottom.

  i wonder why they felt the need to do this?

  this is just silly for a religious website..

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  4thgen

  Ok guys, this is all sounding pretty scary, downright 1984 movie -ish

  So please explain for us NON computer geeks what this means...Is the crux of the matter, do not cut and paste from JW.org because they can find out who we are and potentially sue us? Or something else?
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  "I don't care if it's teachings are false, I'd never leave because it's the best way of life"

  by 4thgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have you ever heard that statement?

  i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.

  they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.

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  4thgen

  Have you ever heard that statement? I have heard it many times and I just don't know what to do with it. They are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle. Besides thowing up your hands and walking away, how would you reason with someone on that?

  I've gone from the angle: We got baptised because we believed it was the 'truth' from the Bible and all others taught falsehood.

  and have gotten no where. Thoughts?
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  Finding a new family? First post!

  by SpeedRacer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been lurking and reading for a couple weeks now.

  i love the topics and it has inspired me to say hello to all my fellow apostates.

  i was awakened to how my family feels about me and my wife shortly after the international assembly.

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  Hello Speed, It's nice to meet you. Its so sad (and typical) for parents to disregard their childs thoughts and action, even though the 'child' is an adult with decades of service to the Watchtower. You are not alone. Hang in. You will meet some wonderful people on this board. Welcome! Hugs, 4thgen
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  Entertainment for International Delegates

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  bibl3thumper has posted a youtube of the celebrations that took place for german delegates.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvs6_q7rqps&feature=em-subs_digest.

  it's hard to believe that they are now using the kingdom hall to sing pop songs and for dancing.

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  4thgen

  As with many of you, I am in shock with this video. I guess this is the new JW.org, because this certainly wasn't the organization I was baptised into. Unbelieveable. I can't even believe it!

  BTW I lake Cellars video better! :)

  http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=jehovah+happy+Pherrell+Williams+&qs=n&form=QBVR&pq=jehovah+happy+pherrell+williams+&sc=0-0&sp=-1&sk=#view=detail&mid=248C2A010886B4A1908C248C2A010886B4A1908C
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  Is new light coming again?

  by justme67 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just turned in my resignation letter to my congregation a few weeks ago.

  last week, 2 elders called me to say they received my letter and would like to meet with me to discuss my concerns.

  in my letter, i said i had found out about all the child abuse cases that were going on and that i didnt agree with their policy of disfellowshipping.

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  4thgen

  Hi Justme,

  So glad you didn't fall for it. They've been using that trick for a while now. Welcome to freedom! Hugs, 4thgen
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  Watchtower transformation to JW.org - step by step TTATT recap

  by 4thgen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has been making cunning and calculated changes in the organization to gain more money, power and control.

  jwn has a multitude of posts on the rapid metamorphosis of the watchtower into jw.org.

  please feel free to comment and interject your thoughts.

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  Viodot: how about: A cunning and calculated plan, brought on by desperate survivalism. ????

  Also, we forgot to mention the cartoon ministry.....
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  HELP needed for a friend, please. Anyone?..

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a friend of mine (who has recently started reading jwn) is having trouble eating and sleeping because, even after having recently woken up to ttatt.. they are still concerned about 'demons, everlasting destruction, and jehovahs disapproval'.. i've tried to encourage them.

  i'm sure you all understand that these things can take time, the transition period is often painful, to some extent.

  i'm still struggling with anger and depression myself.. i'll be away from jwn, off the internet, and thus out of contact with them for a while (don't ask why)... so please don't expect me to reply to or even look at what you post, .

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  4thgen

  Hello Defender of the Truth, It is very heartwarming for you to be concerned for your friend and make this request. Apparently you said that your friend may read what is written on this board. Do you think that the title of the post: "HELP needed for a friend, please. Anyone?.." would attract them to read it? Maybe so....Or maybe some something along the line of: "Are the Demons, a Reality or Imagined?" would attract their attention more?

  If you friend did a searchon this site for "demons' there is TONS of information already commented on.

  Just trying to help....Good Luck! Hugs, 4thgen
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  What the new children of the kingdom look like these days!

  by Wasanelder Once in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with jw.org becoming the rage and new object of veneration, this is how the children will be appearing in a kh near you!

  any comments?.

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  4thgen

  OMG that is GREAT!!!!!! Thanks for posting. Hugs, 4thgen

  Funny, how the kids onthe video have a similar look in their eyes!