Absolutely! And we were like the abuse victim....first accepting the blame for the abuse...returning for more...taking our lumps...knowing something is wrong, but thinking it was us....until one day the lightbulb goes off and we say: ENOUGH!!!!!!! Same pattern. I heard that a victim returns to an abusive situation around 7 or 8 times before they finally leave for good. It seems that the way the indoctrination is carried out that it looks for those timid, worn 'sheeplike' ones to bring in to dominate them. Thanks for starting this thread.
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Similarities between the Governing Body and an abusive spouse
by Zoos ini was looking at a list of methods used by abusive spouses to manipulate and control their "domain" and was struck by how similar the mentality is to the governing body's approach to the flock.
obviously not everything on the list applies as there is no sexual component in the congregation and there is no physical contact, but the similarities were shocking.. http://www.helpguide.org/articles/abuse/domestic-violence-and-abuse.htm.
abusers use a variety of tactics to manipulate you and exert their power:.
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Bethel Status Update - Insider Information
by thedepressedsoul ini have some updates and new information on the downsizing in bethel.
25% of all bethelites around the world will be sent home.
in the us over 1,000 will be sent home.
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I guess if they start sending people home, there will be more square footage for the remaining. Maybe instead of 2 bedrooms and two living rooms, each GB will get their own entire floor in the complex! it would go nice with the Rolex watches!
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counting time
by Sabin inyesterday jw knocked on my door, i was sitting in the office with the window right next to it, they couldn't see me & i decided not to answer.
they stood there for what seemed ages & as i watched something hit me.
they were here only because they were on the territory.
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Well, with the new counting time arrangement, they can legitimately count their time as good works. Just wondering if they made the change in counting time because they know their publisher hours will continue to decrease and they needed to boost their volunteer numbers to keep their tax status. Surely with all the overspending and lawsuits they need to be tax exempt. If not they are screwed. -
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Who Qualifies for TTATT?
by John Aquila inwhen i first learn ttatt i started telling every one.
ttatt will not help him, it will destroy him.
all his family are jws.
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John, Thank you for starting this post and all the others. You are a lively contributor to this site. You have started many thought provoking threads. Excellent points. Isn’t it great to be able to be on this site and have open and frank discussions over ideas and even discuss specific wording?
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This Video Makes A Lot More Sense Today With Whats Going Down Today
by freemindfade inwith today's events the message and tone of this video makes a lot more sense.
thus the defeated, failing, delivery.. http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodprogramsevents/pub-jwbmw_201509_1_video.
it had a purpose.
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freemindfade - Hello! What part of the video? I really can't stomach the whole thing!
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Found this artist rendering,.. shows how Jesus had issues explaining the "overlapping generations"
by notjustyet in.
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Had you thought of feeling sorry for the G.B?
by The Rebel ini only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.
that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.
there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.
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How will many JW's react ?
by Phizzy ini did not believe i would see the demise of the wt in my lifetime, and maybe i will not, they may be able to ride out their present problems.. but how do you think this will affect the average, loyal, believing jw ?.
usually most things just wash over them, if there is a slight niggle, they use their well-worn way of explaining things to themselves as in "the end is near" or "jehovah knows best" etc etc.
but the huge sea-change in corporate policy that we see unfolding, all construction work stopped, except warwick and maybe their biggest project, chelmsford u.k. huge bethel layoffs, and the lifestyle of the remaining staff reduced to virtual slavery, more bethel closures, spiritual food reduced for the public as well as the r&f, and all of this being the opposite of what they have claimed was evidence of jehovah's blessing ???.
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Username: "80,000 properties in their real estate portfolio"?
Interesting. Where did that figure come from?
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Warwick, What is it good for?
by freemindfade inabsolutely nothing.... has anyone dared ask what they need this place for?
think about a few things.
in bethels hay day, there was a shit ton of literature being printed, they even need a giant factory with elevators a truck could fit in.
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Agreed.
You may find this thread interesting: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/309970001/why-new-world-headquarters
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Lightbulb Moment ------> Two Witness Rule
by 4thgen inthe jw's always say that there must be "two witnesses before a matter is firmly established".
if that is the case, then why is the account of moses and the 10 commandments or jesus in the wilderness talking to satan taken as fact?
moses and jesus were both by themselves in the wilderness.
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What do you think? The JW's always say that there must be "two witnesses before a matter is firmly established". If that is the case, then why is the account of Moses and the 10 commandments or Jesus in the wilderness talking to Satan taken as fact? Moses and Jesus were both by themselves in the wilderness. Where was the second witness to these events?
Certainly, victim plus forensic evidence in rape cases stand up more to scrutiny than an event with one person telling about an event they alone experienced. What a huge disconnect the WTBTS has!
Just my two cents....
