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  Anonymous Donation - Not!

  by why144000 in

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  my mother in law (in her 80's) just told me that she had the elders around to pick up her 'donation' pledge.

  it was 'suggested that $20 a month was the average amount pledged but she could pledge more or less.

  so, rather than an anonymous amount they have a signed document stating the amount of her pledge.

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  zebagain

  When she gets hit with an unexpected bill and comes crying for money suggest she direct her concern to the elders.
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  First Post - Emotionally Torn

  by scaredtospeak in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven't been on here long but i found this site a couple days ago and quickly realised it had a lot of posts by people going through similar experiences as me.

  i read some of the answers and it helped relieve some inner anguish i've been carrying since everything i came clean to my parents about everything i've been reading about.. .

  i just have been going through a rough patch right now; that might be an under or overstatement depending on your own personal experiences with this kind of stuff.

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  I can not improve on the help available here But just a couple of things.

  If you are the youngest then your 'velcro' parents will cling like the said to hold you. I was the last of a big family and i was born to be the perfect child and cosseted and smothered along the way and we didnt know the 'truth' at that stage of life so your M & D just dont want to let go.

  There were some Awakes that stated it is not a bad things to scrutinize your beliefs but i cant recall which awakes said that. Others here can no doubt.

  Well you are out for a bumpy ride and this site is your seat belt.

  ps. Guilt is what we allow others to do to us. The WTS thrives on guilt trips.
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  I am going insane sitting here in the meeting listening to this repetitive garbage!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i am sitting here at the meeting during the "book study".... the study is all about gods protective power!.

  oh, yes, protective power....for righteous servants of his.....but what about all those who are trying to be good witnesses, serving the gb, who are not protected from harm?

  !.

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  It is a bad bad thing they do talking about "protective power" like it is some sort of force field. It is very similar to one nation of African soldiers who are taught that by eating certain herbs makes them bullet proof.

  What the hell are they trying to put over? What of those killed on the way to a convention? did the PP get flicked off that day.?
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  C.T. Russel IS burried UNDER the pyramid

  by FFtruther144 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  russel is burried under the pyramid.

  according to none other than frederick franz himself, in his own words!.

  i read some wt trolls on here trying to say that he is under the marker a few feet away.. that is not true.

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  FFtruther144: Thank you for putting up the track by Franz. a few points;

  He spoke of the 'genitile times' genit i l e? and his dropping out of education, well he did that alright.

  "The Finished Mystery .." book complete with the wings of Horus across the cover.

  "Rutherford being the second president of.." He was the third.

  1925 would see the awakening of the ancient. Abraham, David. Abel and so on. There was one report that people ran around the US convention site looking for them! and of course they would be resurrected in a land they had never known the USA?

  In reference to the realization of the 'great crowd' in 1935. Until then he described Great crowd had been considered as "failures". What a judgement!

  Hearing this man speak indicated to me he was in early stages of dementia; any other health professionals may agree.

  Summary; What a side show religion. Even the bully Rutherford had to admit his predictions were often wrong as he made them. The obvious would be take a dose of humility and stop looking for all these hidden meanings and making predictions by them.

  I say again what a sideshow religion its appearance and evolution would be a funny footnote on religious history if it hadnt ruined the lives of so many.
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  Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans as Antarctic Ice Melts

  by bohm in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in west antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported monday.. the finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable.

  the rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.. this is really happening, said thomas p. wagner, who runs nasas programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research.

  theres nothing to stop it now.

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  Dig a ditch near City of Adelaide to the ocean and let the ocean flood into central Australia and Australia becomes an atoll once again. Anyone for fishing off Eyres Rock? I have read a small book by Vaclav Claus a professor of Physics and (I think) the former president of the Czech republic, He stated that venus and Mars are also heating up.
  His conclusion is the sun is in one of its cycles but also warns we have nothing to be smug about.

  I saw a brief report that the US Navy on Antarctic patrol was checking on a large ice sheet to find it was ..gone. Instead there was a new bay miles accross with land as its shore!

  For me? plant trees!
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  Look! It was very good – or: Evil in the Animal Kingdom

  by TheOldHippie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have fed a number of birds regularly thru winter, and among the species were some doves.

  this spring, two of them took a liking for each other and teamed up.

  for a couple of weeks, extensive construction work was jointly done and resulted in a nice little nest, undoubtedly a cosy home for the small family which expected to multiply.

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  Atouching story and true. I recommend a 12g with number 6 shot for the crows. and anyone who has seen what they do to ewes that have just given birth and to the lambs.

  Steve2: gullible imagery indeed. I believe urban living people have watched too much Disney type shows.
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  Missing my Mom

  by exwhyzee in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  she and my dad brought us to the u.s. from ireland in hopes of giving the 4 of us kids a better life with more opportunities.. mom went to school in her village where her mother (my grandmother) was the teacher and the bible was part of the curriculum.

  they even used the name jehovah.

  her father was a plymouth brethern (think amish or quaker) who was shunned for the rest of his life for marrying my grandmother who wasn't "in the lord"...she belonged to church of ireland.. when the witnesses came to the door after we arrived in the u.s, mom was a shoe-in candidate for their recruitment.

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  My condolences to you and yours.

  ..and they did crow on about 1-9-7-5!
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  HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!

  by cultBgone in

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  for all the moms who never get to hear this from their disconnected family:.

  happy mother's day!

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  Out for a walk today and said "Happy Mums day to all the mums and dads who were out with their little ones. You should have seen the faces light up.
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  Just Read Silentlamb.com For the First Time

  by HeyThere in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i am feeling so emotional right now.

  crazy doctrines aside, these child abuse cover-ups are horrendous.

  add them together and i feel like there is a churning black hole sucking the souls out of these children.. now, i realize there are boys who were abused as well, but i get this overwhelming feeling that girls/women are simply not valued and/or taken seriously or accused of being liars or demonic or, even worse, viewed as a harlot, whore, or temptress in the majority of situations, no matter the age or the brutality of the rape.

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  I heard from SL just today that the wts has required that "leaders" get the Working With Children check (this is done via the Police in each state here) even if it took them "three years" to move on this. I have to assume the checking was a real one not some home baked wt version.

  Q. Leaders? All jw are considered 'ministers' or do we suddenly have clergy/laity happening?

  happy @last: you are correct.

  HT: and LS: correct again. I had to not read the SL and this one for a time as it was so distressing and depressing for me.

  So big hugs peace to ye all.
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  sasquatch

  by Hortensia in

  1. social
  2. humour

  had a long conversation with one of our local mount shasta denizens about sasquatch.

  he says he has heard sasquatch, but hasn't seen one.

  says there is a law in oregon against shooting sasquatch, $500 fine and a year in jail.

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  zebagain

  I saw a flight of UFO at 1100. 8 of them clear as, cone shaped point to the top flying steady in "V" formation into the wind.

  I just hope who/whatever is out there has done a better job of their planet than humans have of this one.