Quotes lawsuit update (page 2)

Eyebrow2

Eyebrow, my little sweets, (is that positive enough)

See was that so hard? Proceed with all the negative stuff....I have been sated. (ah you know I enjoy your posts...)

It is ridiculous how easy it is to sue someone. Here in TX, many companies in my industry don't bother having employees sign non compete agreements because, in general, TX courts/law have apparantly seem to come down on the side of the employee. However, I know of this one company that will make you sign one, and will spend a lot of money to sue you if you go to work for another company in the same industry in the same role. Even though they know they will not win most of the time, they have a lot more money than the former employee, and are just looking to punish them. It is not about winning the case, it is about putting the former employee through hell.

I think too many people look at the courts as a way to put others through hell. It isn't right...sigh...I think the WTS would love to have a win..but either way, they know if they make seems hard on Quotes, they might just win either way. I was wondering if any groups up there in canada are helping him?

AlmostAtheist

Ok, just to play the idiot here, but what happens if somebody like quotes just says, "They have no case, it's unwinnable" and doesn't do anything but show up at trial with a binder of personal research and little or no official legalese. What if he says, "Your honor, I can't afford a lawyer, but I also don't think I've done anything wrong. So I'll represent myself as best I can."

I'm sure there's reams of stuff wrong with this, but just hit the highlights. I'm genuinely perplexed as to why it must be so horrible.

Thanks!

Dave

AuldSoul

And it is really only possible in the Corporate world, or among individuals with Corporate backing. The only way the little guy stands a chance in court is when he/she is the one suing. The payof has to be substantial nd the legal team will take the lion's share of the proceeds.

In Quotes' case, Goliath is coming after him, he ain't going out to meet him. Except, this Goliath is EIGHTY feet tall and wearing a full helm with bullet proof visor and he's carrying his own sword (hint: it isn't leather-bound). I don't think Quotes will have a choice other than to capitualte early and settle. No doubt removal of the materials, gag agreements, and a small remuneration will make the case go away. I won't feel bad at him for doing what he has to do, he has helped a lot of people and gotten a lot of information out there that formerly was fairly well hidden from prying eyes.

AuldSoul

DannyHaszard

Who's afraid of the watchtower flunky legal bimbos i will tell the truth about the truth everywhere anytime they will have to get me in front of a worldly jury of penobscot county maine registered voters.

Ohhhhh....i can't wait come and get it flunkys!

AuldSoul

Dave, it comes down to procedure and prejudice. Courtrooms are creatures of habit, rite, and ritual sacrifice. A judge will typically feel offended by anyone who tries to represent themselves. It is as if the individual is saying, "All those years you spent in Law School and practicing so you could get your fancy robe don't mean a thing to me. I'll defend myself!" It is an affront to the practice of law, although it is a perfectly reasonable and fair idea to almost anyone outside that practice.

There are laws (rarely, if ever, enforced) stipulating the circumstances under which people can defend themselves. But there is no way to prove that a judge was weighing the case with bias because you showed up with the right letters behind your name.

AuldSoul

Enigma One

Almost....one can defend oneself "pro se", or no attorney. Only a fool would do this as they say. Check out: http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/ .

This site is the "rules" of federal procedure in a federal trial. Now these are the federal rules. Each court has it's own local rules to augment these rules. In addition each of these rules have decisions and precedents for them. So they are not really as black and white as they seem.

Having no money to defend oneself isn't an issue to the court system. Only in criminal cases will they appoint one for you. In civil cases you are S.O.L.

GoingGoingGone

"They have no case, it's unwinnable" and doesn't do anything but show up at trial with a binder of personal research and little or no official legalese. What if he says, "Your honor, I can't afford a lawyer, but I also don't think I've done anything wrong. So I'll represent myself as best I can."

There is sooo much legal stuff that has to happen before a trial, and the average person has no idea where to even start. Deadlines have to be met, information furnished to opposing parties, etc, etc, etc. If you fail to meet a requirement, even if you are representing yourself, the judgement goes against you by default.

And how did they manage to fool you into thinking that the person in the right will win? Big misconception. The person with the most money and the best lawyer wins. This is the US of A.

GGG

AlmostAtheist

And how did they manage to fool you into thinking that the person in the right will win? Big misconception.

I was a JW for 20 years, I'm not a hard person to fool.

I glanced at the "rules" posted in this thread, thanks for that. Yes, I see it now. You couldn't possibly hope to meet the various deadlines, come up with the 8 3/4" x 11 3/8" paper that every motion needs to be filed on, and so forth. Wow, I just didn't realize what was actually involved.

So any of us is vulnerable at any time? Any company with a burr up its butt can decide to bring a civil case against me and as long as on its face it is sustainable enough for a trial, I'm toast. My god, that's scary.

Dave

Jourles

The person with the most money and the best lawyer wins. This is the US of A.

Well it's a good thing that Quotes lives in Canada!

Canada, where the money doesn't matter and everyone leaves their doors unlocked.

Enigma One

Keep in mind Almost....initiating lawsuits can be expensive too. But the WTBS isn't out for money. They want him to shut the site down. So Quotes could probably throw them $ 25,000 (or less) and shut the site down and they would be happy. It doesn't make sense to sue someone with no money to get. But one must be VERY, VERY careful to avoid lawsuits. They are devestating. Especially when many lawyers will take cases on contingency whereby they get the first % of a settlement. For a few hours of their time they can make a few thousand $. It's sick!

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