Let's play a game - Follow the WTS $$ trail

by watch the tower 126 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • MidwichCuckoo
    MidwichCuckoo

    Jourles - ever heard the ''Necessary Evil'' excuse? Not what I call it........

  • jstalin
    jstalin

    The vatican releases its annual budget - does the WTS?

    http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=30675

  • LDH
    LDH
    the Society's only option would be to reject the gift entirely which seems entirely unreasonable.

    For what sharing does the light have with the dark?

    The society has made people take a stand on things of far less like a freaking 25 cents political card!!!! But you think they shouldn't take the same stand, do I have that right?

    Lisa

    Are you just a little pregnant? Class

  • Quotes
    Quotes

    jgnat said:
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    There MAY NOT be anybody in charge. The machine runs itself.
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    That has been my opinion for quite some time. Most personalisty cults die out when their leader dies, in the same way that sole proprietorship businesses end when the owner dies.

    But C.T.Russell was a businessman first, and he set up a corporation. Corporations are entities under the law, and survive the death of any employee or director or board member. When Russell died, Rutherford (illegally) seized power, and improved the efficiency of the little machine that Russell had built.

    Following the money: IMO, a huge amount of it is utterly wasted as a result of poor decisions made by incompetent "managers". Get a roomful of ex-bethelites together and ask them about stupid projects that waste resources. You'll have an evening of conversation and still only scratch the surface. Only one example: the constant need to buy ever newer, ever faster, ever more expensive printing presses, despite the fact the exisiting ones are adequate.

    Here is an equation for you:

    Unneccesary purchases (i.e. poor business case to justify them)

    *PLUS* disastrous implementation/project management

    *EQUALS* money wasted on a huge white elephant that eventually gets written off.

    For all you lurkers that are thinking "yeah, but the fact they've survived so long proves they have divine support", remember this: WTS pays zero taxes, and almost no wages. The little machine that Russell/Rutherford built would never have survived if it had to deal with the business realities that normal, regular businesses deal with everyday.

    Or put another way: A deaf, dumb, and blind animal is quickly slaughtered in the wild, but if you put it in a zoo where it is protected it can exist for years. The WTS is a deaf, dumb, and blind animal that only survives by virtue of the fact that it is in a "zoo" called "Non-Profiti, zero tax". And the animal called WTS has not only survived, but managed to get quite fat in the process.

    Oh, one more thing. When you or I invest in a mutual fund, they state (both in prospectus and in annual report) exactly what industries and industry segments your money is going to be invested in. Mutual funds are basically just like a private investment, except that the Fund Managaer pools everyone's money and invests it (in the case of a private fund like the Henrietta fund, all the money comes from just one investor).

    Ssssooooo..... I think it is reasonable to conclude that at least the *creator* of the trust account (Henrietta) knows about the holdings, and where the money is invested. As merely a beneficiary, WTS might not automatically have access to that information (and certainly has zero control over direction of investments), but they could (should!) ask. And assuming that the fund creator (Henrietta) is a JW (why else would she give a trust to WTS???), she should be doing "due dilligence" to ensure her funds are invested according to her ethical requirements -- as established by WTS recommendations. It shold be as simple as looking at the quarterly reports from her Trust Fund Manager.

    It is interesting that JWs are told (quote provided by others above) to not invest in certain companies, but when it is their own cash flow they either "turn a blind eye" or expect Henrietta to ignore their rules on ethics.

    ~Quotes, of the "business analyst" class

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    From (ImAllGrowedUp) A little info on money trails!

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    Hello!

    In trying to help another poster uncover different WT corporate names, I came across some interesting information I thought I would share. This goes hand in hand with the orange grove information being posted right now. Maybe someone out there can shed some light on this as well! It's kind of a long post, but I've highlighted the most important information. So please bear with it through the end because I think you will be surprised at where this goes.

    I'm going to start with the WT CA Corporation Filing. It's pretty self-explanatory.

    Corporations - CA

    CORP NUMBER:

    00199249

    CORP NAME:

    WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY, OF NEW YORK, INC .

    MAIL ADDRESS 1:

    25 COLUMBIA HTS

    MAIL CITY:

    BROOKLYN

    MAIL STATE:

    NY

    MAIL ZIP:

    11201

    CORP TYPE:

    STMT & DESIG BY FOREIGN CORP

    STATUS:

    ACTIVE

    CORP TAX BASE:

    NON-STOCK/NON-PROFIT

    INCORP DATE:

    19450827

    LAST COMPLETE FILE DATE:

    19021216

    LAST UPDATE:

    20021221

    STMT OF OFFICERS FILE NUM:

    0354127

    PRESIDENT NAME:

    LARSON, M H

    PRESIDENT ADDRESS 1:

    25 COLUMBIA HTS

    PRESIDENT CITY:

    BROOKLYN

    PRESIDENT STATE:

    NY

    PRESIDENT ZIP:

    11201

    AGENT NAME:

    JAMES M MCCABE

    AGENT ADDRESS 1:

    4817 SANTA MONICA AVE

    AGENT CITY:

    SAN DIEGO

    AGENT STATE :

    CA

    AGENT ZIP:

    92107

    AGENT COUNTRY:

    NEW YORK

    AMENDMENT1 DATE:

    19981204

    TRANSACTION1:

    AMEND STMT BY FOREIGN CORP

    TRANSACTION1 DATE:

    19560313

    COMMENT1:

    NAME CHANGE FROM:

    NAME CORP NUMBER 1:

    00199249

    OLD OR OTHER CORP NAME 1:

    WATCHTOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY, INC.

    AMENDMENT2 DATE:

    19981204

    TRANSACTION2:

    AMEND STMT BY FOREIGN CORP

    TRANSACTION2 DATE:

    19560313

    AMENDMENT2 NUMBER:

    A0000067

    AMENDMENT3 DATE:

    19981204

    TRANSACTION3:

    AMEND STMT BY FOREIGN CORP

    TRANSACTION3 DATE:

    19821109

    AMENDMENT3 NUMBER:

    A0256840

    AMENDMENT4 DATE:

    19981204

    TRANSACTION4:

    AMEND STMT BY FOREIGN CORP

    TRANSACTION4 DATE:

    19981204

    COMMENT4:

    UPDATED

    * * * * * * * *

    This next document is a copy of James McCabe's License to Practice Law in the State of New York.

    Professional Licenses

    Name:

    MCCABE, JAMES MURRAY

    Address:

    25 COLUMBIA HTS

    BROOKLYN , NY

    County:

    KINGS

    Phone:

    (718)560-5400

    License Number:

    Agency:

    NY STATE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION

    License Type:

    ATTORNEY

    License Class:

    Description:

    Status:

    CURRENTLY REGISTERED

    * * * * * * * *

    This next document is James McCabe's business listing in CA. The address is the same one given on the CA Corporation paperwork.

    Phone Directory - Businesses

    Company Name:

    JAMES M MC CABE

    Address:

    4817 SANTA MONICA AVE

    SAN DIEGO , CA 92107

    Phone:

    6192242848

    County:

    SAN DIEGO

    Title:

    Fax:

    6192240089

    Contact Name:

    MC CABE JAMES M

    Address:

    ,

    Home Phone:

    SIC Code:

    811103 = Attorneys

    Date Added to File:

    2002-02-05

    * * * * * * * *

    The next document is a copy of James Mc Cabe's Internet Domain Listing. It also bears the same address as listed in the CA Corp Filing.

    Domain Registrations

    Domain Name:

    MCCABELAW.NET

    Company Name:

    JAMES M. MCCABE

    Contact Name:

    TOBY GRAMM

    Address:

    4817 SANTA MONICA AVE

    SAN DIEGO , CA 92107

    * * * * * * * *

    The next document has two different types of listings. The first part of it lists current and past Assessor's (tax) records, and the second parts lists sales records for the past 10 years.

    How this document works is the most recent information is on top, and decends in reverse chronological order. You will notice that on the Sales Record, James McCabe, the Attorney, is not listed as one of the parties this piece of property was sold to. I'm not sure if that is because McCabe was not a party to the sale, or if for some reason, his name was left off the sales record. But the fact that he is on the Assessor's record, which is the actual deed to the property, shows that he is in fact, one of the owners of the property. The most interesting aspect of these documents is who is listed as the Mortgage Lender.

    You will notice also when you get to the Sales Record, that no mortgage lender is listed. Usually (not always) this means there was NO mortgage lender, which means, that the party purchasing the property paid for it in cash.

    Assessor Record

    Owner Name:

    LEHRER,RON & CAROL

    MCCABE,JAMES

    Mail Addr.:

    2442 PINEHURST CT

    DISCOVERY BAY CA 94514-9219

    Spouse:

    CAROL

    Phone:

    Parcel Number:

    0111300133

    Property Addr .:

    11680 BYRON HWY

    BYRON CA 00000 -

    County:

    Contra Costa (Code CA013)

    Municipal. Code:

    CC

    Carrier Route:

    Units:

    Year Built:

    1925

    Eff. Year Built:

    1925

    Rooms:

    Bedrooms:

    Bathrooms:

    Sq. Lot:

    2718

    Lot Size:

    12

    Zoning:

    A3

    Assessed Value:

    $353,083.00

    Percent Improv.:

    1160

    Std. Use Code:

    AORC

    Tax Amount:

    371794

    Title Company Code:

    051

    Deed Type:

    Sale Amount:

    $300,000.00

    Sold Date:

    20010223

    Sold Doc:

    0000041413

    Transact. Type:

    R

    Last Transact. Date:

    Transact. Doc:

    Loan Amount 1 :

    $270,000.00

    Loan Amount 2:

    $0.00

    Loan Type:

    Int. Rate Type:

    F

    Full or Part.:

    F

    Mult. or Port.:

    Lender:

    WATCH TOWER BIBLE & TRACT

    Homeowner Exempt:

    Legal Desc.:

    T165PM40 PCL D

    Previous Assessor Record

    Owner Name:

    LEHRER,RON & CAROL

    MCCABE,JAMES

    Mail Addr.:

    2442 PINEHURST CT

    DISCOVERY BAY CA 94514-9219

    Spouse:

    CAROL

    Phone:

    Parcel Number:

    0111300133

    Property Addr.:

    11680 BYRON HWY

    BYRON CA 00000-

    County:

    CONTRA COSTA (Code CA013)

    Municipal. Code:

    CC

    Carrier Route:

    Units:

    Year Built:

    1925

    Eff. Year Built:

    1925

    Rooms:

    Bedrooms:

    Bathrooms:

    Sq. Lot:

    2718

    Lot Size:

    525769

    Zoning:

    A3

    Assessed Value:

    $346,160.00

    Percent Improv.:

    1160

    Std. Use Code:

    AORC

    Tax Amount:

    371794

    Title Company Code:

    051

    Deed Type:

    Sale Amount:

    $300,000.00

    Sold Date:

    20010223

    Sold Doc:

    0000041413

    Transact. Type:

    R

    Last Transact. Date:

    Transact. Doc:

    Loan Amount 1:

    $270,000.00

    Loan Amount 2:

    $0.00

    Loan Type:

    Int. Rate Type:

    F

    Full or Part.:

    F

    Mult. or Port.:

    Lender:

    WATCH TOWER BIBLE & TRACT

    Homeowner Exempt:

    Legal Desc.:

    T165PM40 PCL D

    Previous Sales Record

    Seller:

    WATCH TOWER BIBLE & TRACT

    Buyer:

    LEHRER,RON & CAROL

    Lender:

    WATCH TOWER BIBLE & TRACT

    Parcel Number:

    0111300133

    Property Addr.:

    11680 BYRON

    BYRON CA 00000-0000

    County:

    Code CA013

    Municipal. Code:

    CC

    Carrier Route:

    Transfer Date:

    02/23/2001

    Transfer Value:

    $300,000.00

    Document Number:

    Transact. Type:

    R

    Title Company Code:

    051

    Deed Type:

    Loan Type:

    Int. Rate Type:

    F

    Full or Part.:

    F

    Mult. or Port.:

    Previous Sales Record

    Seller:

    TAMAYO TRUST

    Buyer:

    WATCHTOWER BIBLE & TRACT

    Lender:

    Parcel Number:

    0111300133

    Property Addr.:

    11680 BYRON HWY

    BYRON CA -

    County:

    Code CA013

    Municipal. Code:

    CC

    Carrier Route:

    Transfer Date:

    12/28/2000

    Transfer Value:

    $0.00

    Document Number:

    Transact. Type:

    R

    Title Company Code:

    000

    Deed Type:

    Q

    Loan Type:

    Int. Rate Type:

    Full or Part.:

    Mult. or Port.:

    Previous Sales Record

    Seller:

    TILTON TRUST

    Buyer:

    TAMAYO,JEFFERY & SARA L

    Lender:

    HARBOURTON MTG

    Parcel Number:

    0111300133

    Property Addr.:

    11680 BYRON HWY

    BYRON CA -

    County:

    Code CA013

    Municipal. Code:

    CC

    Carrier Route:

    Transfer Date:

    02/13/1997

    Transfer Value:

    $400,000.00

    Document Number:

    Transact. Type:

    R

    Title Company Code:

    051

    Deed Type:

    Loan Type:

    Int. Rate Type:

    F

    Full or Part.:

    F

    Mult. or Port.:

    M

    Previous Sales Record

    Seller:

    TAMAYO,JEFFERY & SARA L

    Buyer:

    TAMAYO TRUST

    Lender:

    Parcel Number:

    0111300133

    Property Addr.:

    11680 BYRON HWY

    BYRON CA -

    County:

    Code CA013

    Municipal. Code:

    CC

    Carrier Route:

    Transfer Date:

    04/19/2000

    Transfer Value:

    $0.00

    Document Number:

    Transact. Type:

    R

    Title Company Code:

    000

    Deed Type:

    Q

    Loan Type:

    Int. Rate Type:

    Full or Part.:

    Mult. or Port.:

    M

    Previous Sales Record

    Seller:

    TILTON,SHIRLEY C

    Buyer:

    TILTON TRUST

    Lender:

    Parcel Number:

    0111300133

    Property Addr.:

    11680 BYRON HWY

    BYRON CA -

    County:

    Code CA013

    Municipal. Code:

    CC

    Carrier Route:

    Transfer Date:

    09/19/1996

    Transfer Value:

    $0.00

    Document Number:

    Transact. Type:

    R

    Title Company Code:

    Deed Type:

    Loan Type:

    Int. Rate Type:

    Full or Part.:

    Mult. or Port.:

    M

    The Standard Use Code is how the property is zoned. This property is zoned as Agricultural - Orchard. Why is the WT serving as a private mortgage lender to two private parties for something other than a Kingdom Hall, and one of those parties just happens to be one of their attorneys?

    * * * * * * * *

    This next document is the Fictitious Business Name Statement that a company must file in order to do business in the State of California.

    Fictitious Business Names

    Company Name:

    LEHRER FAMILY VINEYARDS

    Address:

    11680 BYRON HWY

    BYRON , CA 94514

    Phone:

    Fax:

    Owner's Name:

    Address:

    ,

    Phone:

    FIPS Code:

    CA013

    File Date:

    2001-09-01

    Standard Industry Code:

    017201 = Vineyards

    * * * * * * * *

    Here are some excerpts from James McCabe?s home page. If you visit his site, be sure to check out the link entitled ?Ciriculium Vitae.?

    www.mccabelaw.net

    Law Offices of McCabe & Waltz

    Attorneys James M. McCabe, Esq .*

    James L. Waltz, Esq. *Admitted in NY and Calif.

    Legal Staff Tiffanie Johnson, Legal Sec.

    Nellie Thomason, Off. Mgr.

    Ryan McCabe, Paralegal

    San Diego Offices 4817 Santa Monica Ave.

    Suite B

    San Diego, CA 92107

    Tel: (619) 224-2848

    Fax: (619) 224-0089

    e-mail: [email protected]

    We specialize in the following services:

    Personal Injury

    Wrongful Death

    Estate Planning

    Wealth Transfer Strategies

    Criminal Law

    * * * * * * * *

    So, what do you think is going on here? Why would the WT be serving as a private mortgager to one of their attorneys? Do you think the average JW is aware of how their hard earned (but never enough) contributions are being spent?

    Inquiring Minds Want to Know!

    growedup

  • Quotes
    Quotes

    Atlantis: good work.

    A question of "provenance": from where did you get all that information?

    ~Q

  • Quotes
    Quotes

    Life if good for JAMES M MCCABE. His office is just a few blocks fromt the pier in San Diego: Satellite image of Jame's office neighborhood

    I wonder how a vinyard at 11680 BYRON HWY, BYRON CA, is associated with Mr. McCabe, Esq? That vinyard is 459 miles away from his office, and is actually much closer to San Sanfransico that it is to San Diego. Certainly doesn't sound like your usually real estate transaction.

    The Byron address certainly appears to be agricultural, from a sattellite imgage. You can also see that the Vinyard's Byron Hwy address is only about 5.8 minutes from the 2442 PINEHURST CT, DISCOVERY BAY, CA which is the address listed fro Mr. McCabe, Esq, on the deed for the vinyard. Satellite image of this neighborhood.

    So, we have a San Diego attorny that specializes in (inter alia) Wealth Transfer strategies, who is listed as the mailing address recipient on an agricultural property located way, way up in Contra Costa County (over 450 miles away), but the mailing address for this magical lawyer that can transcend time and space is yet another propery (residential) 10 minutes away from the vinyard.

  • Quotes
    Quotes

    Adding: life is very, very good for Mr. McCabe, Esq.

    Take a look around the Discovery Bay address. Golf courses, inland waterways for yachts, Country Clubs. Very nice indeed.

    As Mel Brooks would say, "It's good to be the king".

  • Atlantis
    Atlantis

    Thanks Quotes!----still digging.

    Scroll down to the next to the last entry. Resume turned in from (former) Customer Service Manager/Watchtower. And this was (years) ago!

    Interesting money trail, or listings.

    http://www.geocities.com/ajay_jain_tx/BrentKnipfer-DeliveryManager.htm

    Customer Service Manager – Watchtower,

  • Gerard
    Gerard

    Re: JP Morgan accounts.

    If you go to

    http://www.jpmorganfunds.com/index.jsp?uuid=F11404F1E66B3AD4-10390318391991990&fund=2252&team_id=3

    and click on "Fund Profile" under "Fund Literature", it will tell you that the fund assets are $1.69 Billion.

    If you take 5.51% of that $1.69 Billion comes to $93,119,000. That is some serious money! But still a drop in the bucket when you consider that the WT earns almost $1 Billion per year.

    Question: If they re-invested about $100 million in these JP Morgan trust funds, where is the missing $900 million - an amount they they repeatedly earn every year, for decades?

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