My sister and my nephew, again

by DanTheMan 41 Replies latest jw friends

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    Hello,

    As some of you may recall from other threads I have started on this topic, my sister is engaged in a battle for my 15 year-old nephew's mind, with her adversaries being her Pentecostal ex-husband, his wife, and their church.

    I wish I could say that my sister is a great parent and that this is purely a black and white issue, but unfortunately I have to admit that my sister leaves *much* to be desired as a parent.

    My nephew, who is a pretty typical 15 year-old boy, is often in need of gentle correction for his sometimes thoughtless behavior. But gentle correction is not what he gets from my sister, not in the least. What he gets from her is constant anger, screaming, accusations, and the like.

    A couple of examples:

    Last night I was over at their house and my sister had cooked dinner. My nephew loaded up his plate and proceeded to take it out to the living room to eat in front of the TV. Meanwhile the rest of us got our food and sat down at the dining room table. Now there has never been a hard and fast rule that dinner is always eaten at the table over there, although that is usually the case.

    What I would have done:

    "Hey B, why don't you come in here and eat with us?" To which I'm sure he would have gladly complied. I am certain that there was no malice behind his act of eating in front of the TV.

    What he got from my sister, in her usual barely controlled rage:

    "B!!!!! ARE WE SOOOO HORRIBLE THAT YOU CAN'T EVEN SIT DOWN TO EAT WITH US???"

    This is very typical of how she talks to him. This is just a mild example of what imo is a unending stream of verbal abuse that he takes from her. She takes everything he does that she doesn't like personally, as if his strongest motivation in life is to make her upset. She's so immature sometimes. Like last night after B did come to the dinner table, she had to go on about how the only reason he roots for Michigan over Ohio State is just to spite her. (You have to live in Columbus Ohio to understand this). I just feel like saying "for crissakes sis, is the fact that he roots for freaking Michigan *anything* to get upset about or take personally??" GOD I HATE IT!

    Another example - a few weeks ago I was playing video games with my nephew in his room. The room was sparkling clean and organized thanks to the efforts of my sister and her husband the previous weekend. But already there were a couple of articles of clothing lying on the floor.

    What I would have done:

    "Hey B, why don't you pick these up? I'd like for you to keep your room clean." To which he would have gladly complied. I am certain that there was no malice in his act of leaving clothes on the floor.

    What he got from my sister, in her usualy barely controlled rage:

    "B!!!!! I THOUGHT WE AGREED THAT YOU WERE GOING TO KEEP YOUR ROOM CLEAN NOW!!!!!!! WHY ARE THERE CLOTHES LYING ON THE FLOOR?????"

    It's almost gotten to where I can't stand going over there. My sister has a TERRIBLE temper, and my nephew bears the brunt of it. And God knows if I say anything to her about the way she treats B, then I would totally be jeopardizing my relationship with her, as she will hear absolutely no advice from me no matter how mildly I try to offer it.

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    What a pity. I am afraid I would have to say something... Even if it ment lossing her.... It is her sons mental health I would care about....

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    mouthy, I am at the point where I feel like I have to say something. I just need to figure out the best way to do it. Walking on eggshells doesn't even begin to describe it.

  • avishai
    avishai


    Secretly tape her, audio or video, and then show it to her later. And/Or...........

    Point out that personalizing shows that SHE is out of control, not him. He's a 15 yr. old kid, and she needs to be in control of HERSELF before she can get control of her kids. See if she'll go to counseling. Start out by saying that if it were the other way around, you'd sure as hell want her to tell you the same thing.

    And if she uses the "Well, I just get so mad" "Or "I just get so frustrated" excuse, let her know that that is exactly what it is, an excuse. Let her know that it's OK to be mad, or frustrated, but that taking it out on others is not OK.

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    I don't know if a face-to-face confrontation will work. I might record her though, just so I can get the words and situation exactly right if I do decide to send here a letter.

  • Dune
    Dune

    You dont have to worry about it. My "mom" was very much so like that and i think i turned out ok.

    One thing to think about is that he'll probably never take becoming a witness seriously due to the fact that he is 15 (by now its almost basically over, IMO). And if she really is THAT bad, he'll find a way to leave her in about 3 or 4 years.

    If you must talk to her, you might want to point out the fact that witness kid's whose parents are strict or abusive usually have kids who leave the
    "truth"

  • Scully
    Scully

    Not everyone is a fan of Dr. Phil, but his book Family First (published in 2004) really has some good advice for parents on how they need to model the behaviour they want to see in their kids. It has specific chapters on Divorced Parenting and parenting in a blended family (remarriage situation).

    One thing that he really emphasizes is the need for parents to be in control of themselves. Children (especially teenagers) are extremely skilled at tuning someone out who is screaming at them. He also emphasizes how important it is for kids to hear praise from their parents when they do something right.

    If your sister is not willing to listen to you or anyone else, as a measure of last resort, you could file an anonymous report with Child Protective Services.

  • Finally-Free
    Finally-Free

    I grew up in a similar environment - both of my parents were like that, and it went way beyond yelling. He sounds like a good kid, but if he's constantly treated as though he's "bad" he may eventually believe it himself - and it could become self fulfilling, as it did in my case.

    She needs to be shown that positive reinforcement works better than abusive speech.

    W

  • DanTheMan
    DanTheMan

    Dune, my sister isn't a JW, she's basically a secular agnostic like me.

    Scully, I think I'll check that book out, thanks for the recommendation.

    She needs to be shown that positive reinforcement works better than abusive speech

    Bingo! The thing is, is that we both rant to each other about our guilt-tripping, contolling mother, but in a lot of ways she is just like her, with my dad's hair-trigger temper thrown in for good measure.

  • AlmostAtheist
    AlmostAtheist

    It's hard to talk to someone about any negative trait, but trying to gently discuss a person's anger issues is nigh on impossible.

    You: "I think you need to try not to respond with anger to everything."

    Her: "Oh, great! Now YOU'RE on my case!"

    You: "No, I'm not on your case. I just noticed that you're unhappy alot, and it seems that you're happiest when you're not angry. Plus when you're angry, it spills over and makes those around you unhappy."

    Her: "So I make everyone around me unhappy? <SARCASM>Great, that's just what I needed to hear. Thanks so much for your help!</SARCASM>"

    Am I close? Sorry Dude, wish I had advice for you. Maybe Scully's book will help.

    Dave

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