Please help me with the forum (page 2)

nelly136

Think the boards your property, youre allowed to invite anyone you like to paper the walls and by the same respect you should feel free to ask people to leave,
theres a whole internet for people to start up their own boards if they feel they would prefer to moderate their own
nelly

Francois

More name calling from Friday. It seems to be in his genes, or at least in his jeans.

Perhaps Englishman has a point - probation - with probationary periods getting longer and longer until it's over for good?

And to free you from charges of personal bias and totalitarianism, perhaps you could set up a council of participants so that when it speaks it speaks with the authority of the entire board; and no one person is chargable with lording it over anyone. It could be made of a few guys, a few ladies, and you could mix up the viewpoints if you like. Although personally I don't feel that known trolls, active JWs, or fundy fanatics ought to be on this standards board - or whatever you call it. I don't know about whether these folk should be known or not. There are arguments both ways.

This is obviously a place for exJWs and others to vent and, more importantly, to expose all they experienced in the JWs, to support others with similar issues, to inform, and to educate. If the WTBTS wishes its views on any matter that comes up here to be known, obviously it is free to post.

And that brings up another matter. The WTBTS obviously monitors these sites, especially this one. They know that people like Fred Hall, Duns, and others haunt these places. Yet, even with all the dire warnings in the WT about doing so, it so obviously turns a blind eye to these JWs hanging out on these sites "defending" them. If they were serious about their "apostate" policy, the Borg would do something to stop it, and we'd know about it from our "moles" in the org. You know, an article addresses it in the KM, or a question from a reader, or perhaps in a WT study article, you know, where God uses his channel of communication to communicate with his communicants and the lowly other sheep eavesdrop.

Once again, the WTBTS speaks with a forked tongue. Must be some of that ethical lying they get into from time to time.

So whaddya think? Is it a JW.com Standards & Policies Committee? Or no?

Francois

Kent

I wouldn't worry, Simon. You have proven time and time again you run this board fair, and you don't make trouble for nobody. The fact that Friday/Yadirf is complaining - so what?

When posts are more or less without content - besides personal attacks, no problem getting rid of such ones. He complains about "No warnings" - which is just crap. He has been warned by almost everyone on the board - and it seems you run the board as your visitors would like you to run it.

I have no complaints at all, and you're doing a nice job.

Mr. Friday could try posting his shit on a "clen" JW board - and he would have been booted in less than 2 seconds! So why the complaints? He's been driveling on for ages - and if he's surprised a reacton came in the long run - he pretends to be even more stupid than he really is.

Yakki Da

Kent

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trevor

Simon,

This is your board - your coffee shop.

You are entitled to have double standards or as many standards as you want. Yardirf seems happy enough to have as many identities as he wants. He claims to be a JW and spews out more filth that a sewer. Double standards - he invented them! The first and most important lesson to learn in life is that - it isn't fair. If we don't like the way it's run, we can walk away. Didn't many of us do that with the Tower?

I don't think you have to explain yourself to us - you are doing a great job. The attention seekers will always be critical of others, that's how they get attention. It is inevitable that they will criticize you.

Put salt in their coffee and give them something to compain about!

waiting

Howdy Simon,

When you're children are in their teen years - what you say and do will be scrutinized the same way as Friday is doing to you. Whatever you're action - they will pinpoint the one error out of a hundred actions - and nail you with it. Lord, I've had to backtrack with my kids waaaay too many times when they found a core error of my motherly methods.

I found my true core error was allowing them the freedom to argue with me in the first place. If I had never allowed that - I would always be right - but alas, they argued as well/better than I did. You made the same error - you allowed us freedom (thanks btw).

issue a warning first, and then afterwards banned me if I THEN refused to heed that warning - Friday

I believe this point - and only this point - is a valid statement. If you had issued a warning to him specifically, then he would have no basis for his e-mail. As it is - it looks like you played partial with your forum.

Tough to be the parent, eh?

waiting

ps: I'm enjoying TWO new books from Amazon.com - and it's such a treat! And btw, I didn't read much of the infamous Joel/Yardif thread - too much filth from Yardif. Even though I deal with these issues in Real Life, a mother can only stand so much reality - and Yardif was crude and cruel, and I didn't agree with him either.

Tina

hi waiting,
I respectfully disagree about the warning. That was an h20 policy. Let's not forget this is a grown man-in his 60's or so. There is something wrong with someone that age who can't self-regulate their behavior. And from past history? I believe a wrning would have done nothing anyway. This is chronic long standing behavior on fridays part.
I see this as a 'time-out' something one has to do to a child to make them aware that there are consequences to continued negative behavior.(it worked with my son) And since there is no 'warning' in simons policy,I believe he made the correct judgement call here. warm regards,Tina

waiting

Hey Tina,

I don't believe a warning would have sufficed with Yardif either. But it would have removed the argument in the e-mail. Simon could then say "I already issued you a direct warning to stop. Since you didn't, you're deleted."

It's the same principle that companies use all the time with employees. Cover your butt.

Yardif/Friday may be 60 or so - and you're correct, this shouldn't be necessary. But then, neither should a "time out."

waiting

Hank

: That is not a bribe, I just sincerely want to see you do the right thing.

No, it is not a bribe. It is extortion. Yardirf is a sick human who reeks with hate and prejudice. He deserves no more chances.

Henry

teejay

Hello Simon,

It's your nickel of course and you can allow whoever and whatever you want on YOUR board. You have shown tremendous patience and wisdom in your management of the board and none of us can fault you. With Friday, personally I found his posts to be more and more inflammatory and disrespectful, both of the freedom of speech we have here but also of the feelings of virtually every poster who talked to him, and I made the personal decision to not respond to him.

Disfellowshipping or account deactivation is an extremely serious step and imo should be taken only when all other efforts have failed. I was under the impression that your arrangement before deactivation was to contact the person via email to let them know that their continued participation was under review. That might be a good way to go about it.

Another thought I had was a system of peer review, a trial before the city gates, as it were. Perhaps you could make it a matter of a vote: have the membership give their opinions and what they base them on and allow the Fridays of JW.com to answer the charges. Then, the offender would be able to own up to his poor behavior and have a chance to change before getting booted. I don't know how you'd set it up (maybe just start a thread?), but that might be the ideal way to go.

I don't envy you. It's waaay cool that you'd ask us, though.

tj

jayhawk1

Hi Simon,
I wanted to add my voice to the mix. I found Yadirf's comments to be getting worse all the time. Many of us warned him about his attitude, and you made a thread about deleting people a couple of days ago. He needed to clean up his act, but did not. His threats are empty at best. I don't care if someone has a different opinion then mine, but attacking me by calling me a "dumbass" was wrong. I was probably wrong by pointing out he was a liar, but calling me a "dumbass" was uncalled for. Thanks for keeping the board clean.

"Hand me that whiskey, I need to consult the spirit."-J.F. Rutherford

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