Psalm 50: JEHOVAH'S JUDICIAL RULINGS

by You Know 60 Replies latest jw friends

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  ozziepost

  YK,
  You're game, old son!

  I'll comment on just one point.

  Since Jehovah lives in the actual heavens, his calling "to the heavens above and to the earth" is symbolic for His calling to both the anointed, who are spoken of as being seated in the heavenly places, and the so-called Great Crowd, as those who are referred to elsewhere as the 'desirable things upon the earth.'

  Haven't you mixed things up a bit? If the GC are spoken of as being on the earth (literal) then the anointed should be in the heavens (literal) shouldn't they? But, of course, they're not, are they?

  The other aspect is this: Where does Jehovah live? Joe Ratherflawed held to the belief that Jehovah inhabited a literal planet called Pleiedes. Are you sure you don't reflect that view when you state "Where does Jehovah live?"

  Christians hold to the understanding that the Father is beyond time and spoace. As the Creator, He brought time and space into existence, so He cannot be bound by His creation.

  Cheers,
  Ozzie

  "Evil is the absence of empathy"
  Movie (2000), Nuremberg
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  You Know

  To Hillary Step:

  Do you concur with the WTS present definition of an apostate as being someone who’s views, even privately harbored, are divergent from the body of teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses at any given moment in time.

  In matters of law there is what is known as the principle of intent. God's spirit inspired word is said to have the power to "discern thoughts and intentions of the heart." Unfortunately men are not always able to discern the intentions of the heart. However, human judges can judge motive based upon an outward manifestation and pattern of behavior. The Society recognizes that not everyone is an apostate that has views divergent from the accepted body of teachings. There is a measure of tolerance and indulgence, as can be evidenced by the fact that many who share their differing views and interpretations with the Watchtower are not automatically branded as "apostates." It should be self-evident from the fact that no advanced understanding would ever take place unless someone initially broke from established dogma on occasion. Where the principle of intent comes into play is how the one with divergent views conducts himself. Invariably, those judged as apostates are not content to simply share their views privately with the brothers responsible for overseeing the doctrine and teaching of the brotherhood. Instead of deferring to the Society to make adjustments, as Jehovah sees fit, the true apostate will become an opposer and accuser of his brothers and will draw away from the brotherhood and set stumblings blocks for others.

  / You Know
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  logical

  You Know,

  I know I said I would not reply... unless necessary.

  Am I condemned to die at "Armageddon" or the "Great Tribulation" because I refuse to get baptised as a JW and answer "yes" to the current questions?

  Am I condemned to die at "Armageddon" or the "Great Tribulation" because I refuse to be one "liking and carrying on a lie" (such as 607, the "annointed" doctrine, door-to-door ministry, shunning - all proven false)
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  You Know

  OK, I tell you what. Everyone here who is in rebellion against God, please post and state just that, state that you are in rebellion against God.

  You are a fool if you believe that your partners are not in rebellion against God. Apostates absolutely despise Jehovah, as evidenced by your denial of him. You people routinely blaspheme Jehovah as a baby-killer and murderer of innocent people. You are just too dishonest to accept the fact that you have no interest in living according to his principles yet you hypocritically pretend that you do. You are simply ridiculous. You are a classic living demonstration of those who 'throw God's word behind them.' / You Know
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  You Know

  ILLOGICAL:

  You have gulped down the apostate's spiel hook, line, and sinker. The fact that you believe everything that you have been taught by apostates pretty much seals your fate I am afraid. You cannot disprove any of those doctrines and neither can apostates. You have been totally deceived. / You Know
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  joelbear

  My partners?

  Are any of us declared partners of any others here? I don't think anyone else here adheres to my particular beliefs, so no one here would consider themselves partnered with me.
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  logical

  You DONT Know a thing

  IS EVERYTHING IN THE WATCHTOWERS OWN PUBLICATIONS "APOSTATE"?

  IS EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE "APOSTATE"?

  Why did the WTS change their questions in 1985 to focus on the ORGANISATION, rather than Father, Son, Holy Spirit AS DIRECTED BY CHRIST?

  Why should I obey MEN over CHRIST?

  (im not perfect, far from it, before you get the idea I think I am)

  Why does a careful exegisis of the scriptures totally expose the validity of the door-to-door ministry, the position of the Great Crowd, the "annointed" etc etc etc?

  Not an apostate view in sight to come to these conclusion.

  Now, WHY THE HELL should I listen to you and your "god" when its quite clear I'm damned if I do and I'm damned if I dont?
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  D wiltshire

  You Know,

  You really gotta send this one to WT headquarters.

  They need guys like you.

  Your annointed, so they really gotta have you on the writting department at the very least if not the GB.

  Hey send this one off to Bethel and tell us what happens your wasting your genius on us.

  I could just see it now, "You Know the GB member".

  Remember one of your last posts, Russia goes for the gold? Why don't you go for the Gold and present your self to the GB, the need you.

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  You Know

  TO OZZIEPOST:

  If the GC are spoken of as being on the earth (literal) then the anointed should be in the heavens (literal) shouldn't they?

  You are mistaken. The Bible refers to the anointed as "the heavens" even while they are upon the earth, because that is there ultimate destiney. Hence, Ephesians 1:10 speaks about "gathering all things together again in Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth." Because the actual gahtering of each class begins on earth, the heavenly class are spoken of as actually being part of the new heavens even while they are yet on the earth. At Ephesian 2:6 Paul further stated that even while on earth God raises up anointed Christians, "and seated us together in the heavenly places in union with Christ..." / You Know
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  Nathan Natas

  YouKnow,

  I can't wait until you get to the part about god's Judgement against arrogant, presumptuous, small-minded power-tripping embryonic serpents who presume to speak for "The God of Heaven."

  But the WTB&TS is safe, as both you and I know, because of the simple fact that there is NO god of heaven. You punks are just like schoolyard bullies who know that the teacher has just gone inside.

  So I have no worries about becoming speechless when a disembodied voice asks me how I dare assert my individuality. But to you and your Governing Body of faithfull and Discreet Slaves I will say this:
  " ".

  Not a word. I'm not playing your game anymore and giving you power in my life. You are as insignificant as you fear you truely are.