Aliens having some fun??

by Okidok 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • Abaddon
    Abaddon

    Okidok; You say;

    "Why? because it is impossible to create this image in 15 minutes with only help from your feet."

    What PROOF do you have it was created in the time period you specify. Someone SAYING that is N O T PROOF.

    Remember, we believed what people told us and it was a L I E.

    Have you looked on the web at the alternative explainations of crop circles? Or the fact that many crop circle sited as 'alien made' by crop circle 'experts' were actually made by hoaxers?

    The Dulce report; do you believe that SHIT? It's page after page of delusional drivel. It makes the scripts of most 'B' Sci-Fi movies look plausable!

    AND are the aliens so STUPID that they cannot communicate directly using technology that might be archaic to them, but would be easily duplicable to a star-faring technology?

    Or do they piss around in fields?

    It's like the idea that 'god' makes all these obscure prophecies and doesn't prove his existance even though he could, because he wants people to have 'faith'. It's a poor excuse to cover up for something that doesn't exist.

    Why go from believing in god to believing in aliens? There is no proof of either! Do you just NEED something to believe in? Is it SO terrible we are a bunch of clever primates who are born, live and die? Stop dreaming, start living. The answer to life's problems doesn't come from the skies, it comes from INSIDE YOU.

    Note; I am not saying there are NO intelligent alien races out there, but there is no proof they have attempted to communicate with us; the only message recieved from 'Outer Space' was a short inexplicable burst picked up in the seventies I think, and not repeated since, and even SETI scientists don't count that as proof!

    Sorry if I am a little harsh, but you would probably treat an adult believer in Santa Claus the same way for the same reasons. Do some research into the cyclical nature of seeing alien phenomena and how the tendancy for people to see portentious religious scenes in the sky disappeared to be replaced by UFO's.

    It's mass delusion and wishful thinking. Prove otherwise.

  • Tallyman
    Tallyman
    It's mass delusion and wishful thinking. Prove otherwise.

    Abaddon, you li'l devil you!

    Sorry, hoss.
    The Agriglyphs are a bonafide mystery.

    Not EVERYTHING can be explained in Black&White, like in the Watchtowerkult, y'know.

    Ask the physicists and biophysicists and the other scientists and serious researchers who have studied this phenomenon
    and see what they think of your
    "MassDelusion/WishfulThinking/AndTheMadnessOfCrowds" theory.

    .

  • TMS
    TMS

    Crop circles defy explanation. Wheat is bent, not broken. Geometric designs are flawless.

    Several other elements are unexplainable.

    We are not talking two drunks and a rake here!

    TMS

    ps The most recent crop circle that surfaced near the sending dish of radio signals into the universe contained 409 precise circles and appeared in a brief window on a rainy night.

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    Clearer information on the new patterns by the radio telescope comes to light, while fevered speculation and media interest grows…

    It now seems clear that the symbolism of the formations which appeared at Chilbolton is indeed connected with messages beamed into space from Earth.

    Ufologists, astronomers and all sorts of people who wouldn’t normally associate with crop circles have been quick to draw the designs into their own sphere of influence, and websites and radio shows have been alive with speculation since their appearance a few days ago.

    The ‘digital code’ formation appears to be a direct ‘response’ from wherever or whoever, to a message beamed at star cluster M13 from the Arecibo radio telescope in 1974. The fact that the message won’t even be received for another 20,000 years doesn’t seem to have deterred many from claiming the crop formations are a response from ETs who have intercepted the message.

    The ‘code’ appears to show an alien DNA structure (as opposed to the human one we sent up) and includes information about a race of ETs, their star system and biological make-up, etc. The code also seems to include a very pixilated diagram of a formation which appeared in the same field last year!

    Some are dubious about the formations, feeling that such a direct response is out of character for a phenomenon which has always relied on more mysterious symbolism, and pointing to certain irregularities in the actual execution of the designs. Some have suggested it might even be a military plot to engender fear of ‘grey aliens’ (some have suggested the ‘face’ formation is a grey), to encourage support for the US’s missile defence shield project, while other simply think it a very clever hoax.

    Others have waxed lyrical about the new designs and feel that it could be an important step forward for the circle phenomenon, heralding an era (perhaps next year, anyway) of more direct communication. One particularly interesting examination of the formations can be found at http://www.psyopnews.com.

    The media have also begun to pick up on the events, and the Daily Mail, which last week had a whole page spread on the Milk Hill spiral, is due to feature photos on Monday.

    Don’t go looking for the formations, though – they’ve already been harvested, as several visitors to Chilbolton have discovered to their disappointment. Conspiracy? Probably not. It’s the time of year, you know.

    "It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
    hear."
    ---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    Hi Abaddon
    you said:

    Why go from believing in god to believing in aliens? There is no proof of either! Do you just NEED something to believe in? Is it SO terrible we are a bunch of clever primates who are born, live and die? Stop dreaming, start living. The answer to life's problems doesn't come from the skies, it comes from INSIDE YOU.

    Note; I am not saying there are NO intelligent alien races out there, but there is no proof they have attempted to communicate with us; the only message recieved from 'Outer Space' was a short inexplicable burst picked up in the seventies I think, and not repeated since, and even SETI scientists don't count that as proof!

    Sorry if I am a little harsh, but you would probably treat an adult believer in Santa Claus the same way for the same reasons. Do some research into the cyclical nature of seeing alien phenomena and how the tendancy for people to see portentious religious scenes in the sky disappeared to be replaced by UFO's

    I think you are in the position of an unfailing feeling, trying to rescue somebody to yours belife system?? are u meaning me?
    You are so totally wrong, and have a bit of a clear fear to the subject.
    To make my self clear: I read something like the Dulce report, ok ,its weird, but 1% have to be right, maybe the location.
    Its right I dont believe in God, maybe not in the same way as you.
    I dont believe in Aliens too, I have never met one. I never met President Bush either, bye the way I dont believe in him.
    But crop circles is different, you can watch them. And if u spend some time surfing crop circles topics, you will one day understand the difference between hoaxes and the real one.

    "It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
    hear."
    ---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    Hi larc
    you said:

    Oki, do you think the aliens would be receptive to a Bible study with the Witnesses? What do you think?


    No larc I dont think so. The aliens know very well that christianity is a big misunderstanding. They feel pity.

    "It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
    hear."
    ---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

  • rem
    rem

    Okidok,

    And if u spend some time surfing crop circles topics, you will one day understand the difference between hoaxes and the real one.

    "Real one"? What is that supposed to mean? No one denies the phenomenon of crop circles - they are all real. Real hoaxes.

    Some hoaxsters are more talented than others. Let's not underestimate human enginuity!

    rem

    "Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
    ..........Bertrand Russell

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    Hi again Abaddon
    you said:

    What PROOF do you have it was created in the time period you specify. Someone SAYING that is N O T PROOF.


    If you want real proof, you have to be there yourself, see with you own eyes, maybe you then either want belive?? But there is a well known fact that these circles are made out from nowhere in few minutes.

    Eye-witnesses: There are around two dozen eye-witness accounts of crop circles forming. All describe similar events; an invisible force coming out of nowhere in otherwise calm conditions and spinning the crops down within seconds, usually with surprising violence - yet little damage is found in the laid crop. Tornado-like funnels, light phenomena and high-pitched whistling sounds have also been reported.

    Quick on the draw: In July 1996, a 915' spiral of 151 circles appeared in full view of the busy A303 road, opposite England's ancient monument Stonehenge, Wiltshire, within a 45 minute period one Sunday afternoon. A pilot, gamekeeper and security guard confirmed it had not been there before 5.30pm - yet shortly after 6.00pm, the massive formation was spotted. Much smaller man-made designs have taken several hours to complete.

    "It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
    hear."
    ---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

  • Okidok
    Okidok

    Hi rem I think you have picked the wrong quote. Your Quote is;

    "Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
    ..........Bertrand Russell


    Why dont you allow yourself to think for a moment, and maybe think before you say something or read at least one line on the subject. Do u belive your mirror? Maybe the image you see there is a hoax?

    "It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
    hear."
    ---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)

  • rem
    rem

    Okidok,

    I suppose you would like me to 'think' like you? Hmm here's an example of the type of thinking I've seen you do since you started posting here:

    Wow! Have you seen these crop circles? Weird, eh? I don't think humans could have done them, so it must be aliens.

    Yeah - ever heard of an argument from incredulity? Methinks you could use some pointers in critical thinking and some education in logic. And you are challenging me to think?

    A good start would be for you to read Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan. After digesting that, you may be able to browse conspiracy theorist web sites without believing everything you read.

    rem

    p.s.: You would also do well to read Why People Believe Weird Things by Mike Shermer.

    "Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
    ..........Bertrand Russell

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