by Okidok 42 Replies latest jw friends
OkieDokie, here's another link to the Arecibo formation:
* http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/cgi-bin/CCR?a=guk01dm
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rem,
I see, like Karl Sagan, you are a worshipper at the High Altar of Scientism.
Tell me, what does 'enginuity' mean?
Is that like an "engine" or something that powers the mind of a sKeptik?
And how does one "underestimate" enginuity?
...always looking for a new addition to my vocabulatary.
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You kaught me Tally. I was never no good without my trusty spell checker! :)
rem
"Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so."
..........Bertrand Russell
Freaky!!!!!!!!!!! Really FREAKY!!!!!! So, who thinks that we will get to meet aliens in the next 50 years? I think that might really be a possibility.
Joanne
Hi Tallyman, rem said:
It's funny to me how some underestimate the enginuity of human beings.rem
you said:
Tell me, what does 'enginuity' mean?
Is that like an "engine" or something that powers the mind of a sKeptik?
And how does one "underestimate" enginuity?
Why dont u ask rem? Maybe the word describe something between engine and ingenious?
To rem. you said:
I suppose you would like me to 'think' like you? Hmm here's an example of the type of thinking I've seen you do since you started posting hereWow! Have you seen these crop circles? Weird, eh? I don't think humans could have done them, so it must be aliens.
Dont think like me rem.Think like Carl Sagen. The USA`s chief thinker
for decades.
And your example of my thinking is very good, but wrong. I would prefer to say: Have you ever seen such mind blowing crop circles? I dont think they are man made.
"It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
hear."
---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
Hi Tallyman thanks for your URL.
http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/cgi-bin/CCR?a=guk01dm Very supporting
"It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
hear."
---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
What is so interesting is that this ‘dot matrix face’ and the strip of code next to the radio telescope are remarkably similar to the kinds of coded information we sent out into space on the Voyager spacecraft. Could this be our reply or some strange intergalactic echo?
So these aliens either intercepted one of the Voyager spacecraft just outside our solar system (and examined them and left them on their course) or received one of our (very few) radio broadcasts, decoded the message and created a reply, secretly landed a spaceship next to a radio telescope, and created a fucking crop circle? Why the hell would they do something so stupid? If they wanted to communicate with us, surely they would have used the methods they know we use, and not methods which are routinely used by pranksters. Unless the aliens are practical jokers too, in which it's either a human practical joke or an alien practical joke. My bet is that like every crop pattern ever explained, it's the work of humans.
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
Hi funkyderek. you said:
My bet is that like every crop pattern ever explained, it's the work of humans.
But what if they not are the work of humans? Can you imagine??
"It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
hear."
---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
But what if they not are the work of humans? Can you imagine?
Yes, I can imagine. But it's still not true.
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Those who can induce you to believe absurdities can induce you to commit attrocities - Voltaire
TMS; Yeah, you're right. How completely obvious. Someone calls me on my mobile phone and I prune a hedge instead of talking to them. Doesn't it strike you as STUPID? Doesn't it strike you as ILLOGICAL?
Of course, it might be discovered that faster-than-light communication is only possible if the receiver is a large cornfield. They must have a very big combine harvester to broadcast the signal.
Trying to sell crop circles as genuine alien communication (when they are not provable as originating from aliens and have diverse interpretation) is like trying to sell religion as coming from god (when it's not provable as coming from god and has diverse interpretation.
If god wanted to talk to us, he would. Ditto aliens. There would be no doubt. Advanced civilizations do not play silly buggers when they try to make first contact. They would say, “Hello, welcome to the ever-loving Galactic Federation, we offer you high tech and subsidized loans to aid in your integration with Galactic society.” Either that or “Citizens of Earth, you are now our slaves.”
Remember, even after the band of merry pranksters who had been creating corn circles for years came forward and said 'It was us', people carried on believeing that crop circles made by these people were alien artifacts.
And the geometric designs are not perfect. Perfect means perfect. Most crop circles have errors in their geometry, like the one Okidok initially posted AND described as 'perfect'.
Okidok; You said;
I think you are in the position of an unfailing feeling, trying to rescue somebody to yours belife system?? are u meaning me?
You are so totally wrong, and have a bit of a clear fear to the subject.
Why is it your level of grammar and spelling is similar to that of many fundamentalists who occasionally come to this board and tell us "You are rong and that gawd created the world in seven twentie for hour days (sic)". You seem to feel that this is a pertinent fault, as you join in the criticism of rem for a mistake. So reap what you sow (hehe, crop circles, reap, sow, hehe). ‘Belife’ is belief, and one does not have a fear ‘to’ a subject, but ‘of’ a subject. The grammar is so bad I won’t even ‘go there’.
As for what I can understand of the above quoted statement (‘you are in the position of an unfailing feeling’ is more a song lyric than a part of natural speech), yes, I think you are gullible. You are just falling for the 'aliens will save us' fart-headedness instead of the 'god/Jesus will save us' fart-headedness. I don't want you to believe what I believe, I want you to believe something that isn't so patently STUPID, or at least to stop pretending that what you believe in is remotely plausable.
To make my self clear: I read something like the Dulce report, ok ,its weird, but 1% have to be right, maybe the location.
Oh, so it's only 'weird' to say that there are at least two alien races battling for control of the Earth, and that the CIA (who are Nazis) are in league with the Greys, who suck liquid matter up through their finger-tips to eat (Oh there's a scene in ET like that, isn't there?). They are the bad guys, as they mutilate cows and abduct people, although they never get caught, but the pretty blond ones who can travel multi-dimensionally with just their bodies are the good guys (obvious, they are blond and handsome). It's only 'weird' to say that when there is not a shred of evidence for any of it. And there was me thinking it was utterly delusional. No Okidok, 1% does not have to be right, it can be 100% bollocks, and IT IS.
You say you ‘read something like the Dulce report,’. This means that you read something LIKE the Dulce report (i.e. a load of shit), but implies you didn’t read the Dulce report itself. Whether that is what you meant, well, I don’t know… and ‘its’ is a possessive not a contraction of ‘it is’. And ‘1% have to be right’ should be ‘1% has to be right’, but is still wrong either way, as pointed out above.
Basically speaking, even with a modest knowledge of science, you can make a very convincing argument that if a civilization can travel between stars, it can if it so chooses subjugate us before tea-time. This is NOT Independence Day. Will Smith will not duke it out with Anti-grav powered craft in his F-15, bump into the President’s wife and then save the world while the Pres keeps an eye on his squeeze. We will die horribly by our billions, or wish that our lords and masters had allowed us to die horribly rather than becoming a slave race.
Just as religious superiority or racial superiority were once fond beliefs of the majority, so we have a nice Gene Roddenberry sponsored idea that we humans will be superior to far older cleverer races, because we are human and there’s something special about us. We will survive against crushing technology and superior numbers. What a crock. Our only hope is they come in peace, or we will go in pieces.
Its right I dont believe in God, maybe not in the same way as you.
You don't believe in God, but maybe not in the same way as me. Eh? Compared to you, crop circles are EASY to understand. ‘Dont’ is not a word… and as for ‘its’ you are using a contraction not a possesive so you should go for it’s AGAIN.
I dont believe in Aliens too, I have never met one. I never met President Bush either, bye the way I dont believe in him.
This is an old and intellectually incontinent argument. Not believing in something is not the same as never having met some one. Never met. Disbelief. TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. And you mean by, not bye.
But crop circles is different, you can watch them. And if u spend some time surfing crop circles topics, you will one day understand the difference between hoaxes and the real one.
‘Is’ is singular, ‘crop circles’ is a plural, therefore ‘are’ should be used.
So I can't watch President Bush, and that's why he's different from a crop circle. Blinding argumentation there Okidok.
No, if you read drivel too much you end up believing in it. Look at the Watchtower and Awake! The link that was posted about the Arecibo formation was quite good, but why did they reply to the message next to a different radio telescope? Was the reply address on the transmission wrong? Did the post-crop-master make a mistake? Or did the bunch of student decide the airfare to Mexico was a bit steep and made do with the local radio telescope.
Stop wishing and start thinking.
Hi Abaddon. Thanks for your grammer and spelling lecture.It seems to me you got a real adrenaline kick out of my posting. Dont forget to breath.
Yes I am a newbi to english but trying to improve.
"It takes two to speak the truth -- one to speak, and another to
hear."
---Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
